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re: Another California school district axes honors classes in the name of equity

Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:44 pm to
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“teachers looked at their AP enrollment and realized black and brown kids were not there,” according to Quoc Tran, the superintendent of 6,900-student Culver City Unified School District, the Wall Street Journal reports.

“They felt obligated to do something,” Tran added.


The something you're obligated to do is to lift up and get the ones you think should be there. Work harder. Get the kids to work harder.

This is the whole reason socialism and communism do not work.
When everything has to be equal outcomes, it is just so much easier to take the route of dumbing down everyone, instead of trying to lift up those that lag behind
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29731 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:58 pm to
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Why not add an honors class for Black & Brown students?


Already have those, but you know them by a different name: remedial classes.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7329 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:01 pm to
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The teachers also presented anonymous quotes by non-honors students who said they “felt less motivated or successful” because they weren’t included in the classes that emphasized motivation and success.


Nothing was stopping them from signing up and putting in the work.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2973 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:31 pm to
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axes honors classes
What did they axe the honors class?
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:43 pm to
Damn huwhite pipo always ruing everything.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10877 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:55 pm to
Elections have consequences. Maybe the wine moms will stop voting for crazy liberal democrats.
Posted by ThinkAboutIt
Member since Feb 2023
6 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:11 am to
Florida will soon be competing with Cali for that title.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:20 am to
The lefts idea of equity is for everyone to be poor and dumb.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:32 am to
The dumbing down of America.

Our kids learn about unconscious bias and systemic racism in classes (including math curriculum).

Kids in Asia are sticking to the basics and beyond to forge forward academic achievers and productive citizens.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38376 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:41 am to
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The teachers also presented anonymous quotes by non-honors students who said they “felt less motivated or successful” because they weren’t included in the classes that emphasized motivation and success.


Classic liberal defeatist mentality.

Instead of acknowledging that you need to do better and work harder to qualify into the Honors classes, let’s just get rid of the honors classes altogether

Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9716 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:53 am to
The biggest mistake people make when they look at honors classes and wonder why their kid isn’t in them… is that they think honors classes are some sort of special reward.

A real honors class should just be more work and more advanced work… not because you’re getting the kids to live up to some sort of standard but because the kids absolutely need it. It’s special education. Think of a bell curve measuring ability. The students on either side of the curve are special Ed. You need to serve them because they are ill-suited for the classes that the kids in the middle of the bell curve take.

When you take an honors kid and throw them into the tank of a “regular” class, it’s torture to them. I feel for those talented kids who are going to be robbed of one of the few things that they enjoy in life… academic challenge.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38482 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:56 am to
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Kids in Asia are

Using imaginary abacuses to do high level multi digit multi step problems in their head at like 10 years old.
LINK
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:03 am to
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The teachers also presented anonymous quotes by non-honors students who said they “felt less motivated or successful” because they weren’t included in the classes that emphasized motivation and success.


Then place said kids in AP classes as a freshman (or whatever year they currently are in) and see how it goes.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 12:29 pm to
Bump for Germans
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117610 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 12:45 pm to
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The smart kids have already exited.


And the ones that remain will be a problem in the class. Smart kids get bored when surrounded by morons. They will find ways to amuse themselves.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 1:35 pm to
Quoc Tran
Not a Nguyener
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