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Anecdotal Evidence Points to Heavy Alabama Turnout

Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:17 pm
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To paraphrase Alabama journalist and author Rick Bragg, soon it will be all over but the countin.’

The end comes in a matter of hours in an expensive, hotly contested special election to finish the last two Senate terms of former Sen. Jeff Sessions. He stepped down to become attorney general in the Trump administration.

Early polling place reports suggest turnout might exceed the 20 percent to 25 prediction of Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill for the contest that pits Republican Roy Moore against Democrat Doug Jones.

“We’re doing better than that in Baldwin,” Baldwin County Probate Judge Tim Russell, the top elections official in the county outside Mobile, told LifeZette. “I think we’re going to hit 35 or 40 [percent] … We’ve had good turnout in every precinct. I’ve been some big ones. I’ve been to some small ones.”

That would double the turnout for the primary in August.

Russell thinks Jones might take 45 percent of the vote in the county, which would be a stunning result for a Democrat in that GOP stronghold.

“I’ve never seen in my home county a race that had so much emotion on both sides,” he said



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A combination of highly energized opposition Democrats and a flawed, controversial Republican candidate transformed Alabama into a battleground state — at least for this contest. Moore, whose opposition to the federal judiciary led to his ouster from active service during two separate stints as Alabama Supreme Court justice, has underperformed other Republicans in previous elections.

Despite the baggage, most experts still considered Moore the favorite against Democrat Doug Jones, until The Washington Post a little more than a month ago published a story quoting a woman accusing him of making a sexual advance toward her in the 1970s — when she was 14 and he was 32. Three other women said Moore showed a romantic interest in them during the same time period when they were barely older than the legal age of consent.

Later, other women came forward to accuse Moore of acting inappropriately toward them.

“I’ve never voted for Roy Moore. But I’m voting for him today … Mine is kind of a protest vote against the media and the way it covered this.”

Moore has denied all the allegations, but they clearly reshaped this race. Most recent polls heading into election day put Moore in the lead, but a Fox News survey released Monday suggested Jones had a lead of 10 percentage points.

This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:20 pm to
I can tell you who is voting. Pissed off conservatives that are tired of the garbage being dished out by the Left.

Look for a solid Moore win.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:21 pm to
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“We’re doing better than that in Baldwin,” Baldwin County Probate Judge Tim Russell,


That's great news for Moore. Shows that turnout isn't confined to Democratic strongholds.



But....


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Russell thinks Jones might take 45 percent of the vote in the county,


If true, then Moore is toast. Vance got 35% in 2012. Clinton got almost 20% in 2016.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:26 pm to
Turnout very high in Birmingham and suburbs. Very busy an hour after lunch rush at my precinct. I’ve been told by several others they were told by poll workers that turnout is high.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:28 pm to
Looks like this is going to be a barnburner. I'm out on all "Moore wins" shares and actually invested in turnout over 1MM and Moore losing Madison and Mobile counties for modest 15% gains.

May invest in Moore or even Jones winning later on once the returns start coming in.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Looks like this is going to be a barnburner. I'm out on all "Moore wins" shares and actually invested in turnout over 1MM and Moore losing Madison and Mobile counties for modest 15% gains.

May invest in Moore or even Jones winning later on once the returns start coming in.



I still don't believe Jones has a chance to win until I see something about black turnout being higher than normal in the Black Belt and a few urban areas.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:32 pm to
I believe this race will be Moore by ~5%

Moore 51
Jones 46
Write In 3%
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Turnout very high in Birmingham and suburbs. Very busy an hour after lunch rush at my precinct. I’ve been told by several others they were told by poll workers that turnout is high.


Moore needs to perform well in those Birmingham suburbs or this is gonna get close.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:34 pm to
I may very well buy back into Moore but I don't feel comfortable with this anecdotal evidence and nothing being reported from exurban / rural areas regarding turnout.

If there was a gun to my head I'd def. still pick Moore and still want him to win bigly.
Posted by lsaltee
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:34 pm to
I have seen 10 times as many jones signs as i have moore signs. take that for what its worth.
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:37 pm to
There was a lot of money for Jones that poured into this race. Moore was able to stop a lot of the bleeding when RNC got back into race & with Trump endorsement.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:38 pm to
A lot of the reporters and people reporting high turnout from Jones friendly areas are left-leaning and obviously hate Moore.

You just never know until you know.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:39 pm to
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“We’re doing better than that in Baldwin,” Baldwin County Probate Judge Tim Russell, the top elections official in the county outside Mobile, told LifeZette. “I think we’re going to hit 35 or 40 [percent] … We’ve had good turnout in every precinct. I’ve been some big ones. I’ve been to some small ones.”
well the vote on a tax increase in Baldwin county this year, so that is the reason for increased voter turnout here
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:40 pm to
Agree, the media is pulling out all the stops to defeat Moore
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:41 pm to
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well the vote on a tax increase in Baldwin county this year,
I don't know the specifics of that tax, but if that is driving turnout that would be good for Moore.
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
NavyTiger74 is my alter
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:42 pm to
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well the vote on a tax increase in Baldwin county this year, so that is the reason for increased voter turnout here


Absolutely, it’s actually in the article but I didn’t want to copy/paste the whole article.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:45 pm to
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I don't feel comfortable with this anecdotal evidence


I'd take it with a grain of salt. Jones voters are probably doing a little wishcasting with that.

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nothing being reported from exurban / rural areas regarding turnout.


I wouldn't think anything of that right now. Its not like people in those places run to Twitter to talk about turnout.
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:47 pm to
You voted Moore?
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:49 pm to
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I have seen 10 times as many jones signs as i have moore signs. take that for what its worth.


Yea, this race is going to be close, but in that same area, there were about 100x more Clinton signs than Trump ones.
Posted by Prince_Hakeem
NavyTiger74 is my alter
Member since Dec 2017
238 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:52 pm to
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Apples to apples: I was voter No. 1,519 at Daphne Civic Center 1t 3:17 p.m. in #AlabamaSenateElection primary in August. At just before 3 p.m. today for genex, I was No. 4,324.
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