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An important note about 3rd trimester abortions and Roe v. Wade

Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42022 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:07 pm
Under the Trimester Scheme discussed by the majority in Roe v. Wade, states may regulate and prohibit abortion in the 3rd trimester.

So, even the left's favorite case, Roe. v. Wade, does not go far enough for them. Now this portion of Roe must be unacceptable to them, as evidenced by the fact that Democratic candidates seem to be more and more open to abortions at any point in the pregnancy.

(note: The Trimster Scheme from Roe was later overturned in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which allowed some state regulation before 3rd trimester).
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Under the Trimester Scheme discussed by the majority in Roe v. Wade, states may regulate and prohibit abortion in the 3rd trimester.
Roe v Wade said states could regulate abortion after the viability of the fetus.

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So, even the left's favorite case, Roe. v. Wade, does not go far enough for them. Now this portion of Roe must be unacceptable to them.
Please provide specific examples of this.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72926 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:15 pm to
Are you still supporting killing babies at birth?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42022 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Roe v Wade said states could regulate abortion after the viability of the fetus.

Which they said was at the end of the second trimester. Now, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey they unlatched viability from the 3rd trimester (i.e., viability could be earlier), but the point remains that there are Democrats who are seemingly good with abortions in the third trimester, which is after viability.

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Please provide specific examples of this.


Beto seemingly endorses third-trimester abortions

LINK
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Are you still supporting killing babies at birth?
Are you still beating your wife/girlfriend?

You are undoubtedly one of the most ignorant posters on this board.

Killing babies at birth is illegal. It's infanticide. You are so stupid you believe the right-wing evangelical authoritarian propaganda about Democrats wanting to kill babies at birth.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24606 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Killing babies at birth is illegal. It's infanticide. You are so stupid you believe the right-wing evangelical authoritarian propaganda about Democrats wanting to kill babies at birth.


3rd trimester abortions should be illegal period.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112362 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Killing babies at birth is illegal. It's infanticide. You are so stupid you believe the right-wing evangelical authoritarian propaganda about Democrats wanting to kill babies at birth.


The procedure is legal but it requires partial birth. IE, the doctor induces birth because it is too far along to be poisoned without poisoning the mother. The baby starts to come out. It is held inside to technically be unborn by legal status.
Then the doctor uses a long thin blade to stab into the skull. Once the baby is dead (skull crushing does that very well) then the baby is taken out.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:33 pm to
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states may regulate and prohibit abortion in the 3rd trimester.
After 20wks / midterm.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Beto seemingly endorses third-trimester abortions
The discussion was about 3rd trimester abortions, but Beto qualified his answer to be abortions in general. He side-stepped answering the question, but will have to answer it before very long.
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Virginia Gov. Northam faces backlash for comments
Northam has been criticized and even been accused of supporting infanticide for his comments about the proposed Virginia abortion bill.

Northam's comments were taken out of context. He was discussing the situation where a fetus has severe deformities or a fetus is not viable.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:45 pm to
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3rd trimester abortions should be illegal period.
There are circumstances where they should be allowed - rape, incest, non-viable fetus, severe fetal anomaly, and life of the mother.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:48 pm to
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Northam has been criticized and even been accused of supporting infanticide for his comments about the proposed Virginia abortion bill.

Northam's comments were taken out of context. He was discussing the situation where a fetus has severe deformities or a fetus is not viable.

This is such a cop out. There aren't a hell of a lot of surprises these days when it comes to these issues given our current technology. This is nothing more than justifying at-will abortion up to and including birth (and possibly shortly thereafter)
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29592 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:53 pm to
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There are circumstances where they should be allowed - rape, incest, non-viable fetus, severe fetal anomaly, and life of the mother.




And every town over population of 5k will have a medical practitioner from Uganda or Honduras that will declare all those thing for you for a reasonable cash copay. All legal and subsidized my Medicare/Medicaid. You sick fricks think you are quite slick but you aren’t fooling anyone.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:25 pm to
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This is such a cop out. There aren't a hell of a lot of surprises these days when it comes to these issues given our current technology. This is nothing more than justifying at-will abortion up to and including birth (and possibly shortly thereafter)
Northam is a Pediatric Neurologist. Was he discussing the situation where a fetus has severe deformities or a fetus is not viable. Yes or no?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:34 pm to
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3rd trimester abortions should be illegal period.


They are.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:56 pm to
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And every town over population of 5k will have a medical practitioner from Uganda or Honduras that will declare all those thing for you for a reasonable cash copay. All legal and subsidized my Medicare/Medicaid. You sick fricks think you are quite slick but you aren’t fooling anyone.

What a dumbass. You don't have a clue about this.

RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION
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In Texas, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of May 1, 2018:

Most women must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage her from having an abortion, and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided.

Private insurance policies cover abortion only in cases of life endangerment or if the woman's health is severely compromised.

Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion if the woman's life is endangered or her health is severely compromised.

Abortion is covered in insurance policies for public employees only in cases in which the woman's life is endangered or her health is severely compromised.

Medication abortion must be provided using the FDA protocol. The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.

The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided.

Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.

A woman must undergo an ultrasound at least 24 hours before obtaining an abortion; the provider must show and describe the image to the woman.


This doctors from Honduras bullshite is just that.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:59 pm to
Texridder
Seems like you should not be posting tonight in shame after the absolute stupid arse you have made of yourself over the last 2 years. You are a damn fool and brainwashed liberal idiot.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:08 pm to
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Seems like you should not be posting tonight in shame after the absolute stupid arse you have made of yourself over the last 2 years. You are a damn fool and brainwashed liberal idiot.
You know, I don't think I've ever seen you make a substantive response to any of my posts. Why is that?

So you can GFY.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:11 pm to
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texridder


Liberal = Momma's boy
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:23 pm to
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Liberal = Momma's boy
Alt righter (like you) = brainwashed/brainless authoritarian
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