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re: Alemada Research bought a one-branch bank for $11.5 million and it looks like…..this (FTX)
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:17 pm to Bard
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:17 pm to Bard
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a method for money laundering
Explain how this works in your mind.
You think an incredibly regulated and documented business like a bank is a good way to launder money these days?
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Everyone is ashamed of you. I’m praying for you now.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:18 pm to stout
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Physical location means jack shite.
Also the picture posted in op doesn't really show anything but the back. Clearly the bank is on a road with other businesses around it based on the other pictures. This reminds me of like Westlake and all the businesses on Samsung and what they would look like if you saw them from behind
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:19 pm to Captain Poopie Pants
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Everyone is ashamed of you. I’m praying for you now
Irony: the "I'm just asking questions" crowd melting down when someone...asks questions.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:20 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Guys, you could help yourselves out if you just drilled down past some Reddit anon post. Just find the article they’re basing the post on. From the source (NYT), here’s the shady aspect:
LINK
Note it’s the NYT which is supposedly white washing and covering up the entire matter.
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FTX’s investment, which according to financial regulators was more than double the bank’s net worth, was led by Ramnik Arora, a top lieutenant of the exchange’s founder, Sam Bankman-Fried. Mr. Arora was responsible for many of the much larger deals that FTX signed with Sequoia Capital and other venture capitalists that eventually failed.
Farmington has more than one crypto connection. FBH bought the bank in 2020. The chairman of FBH is Jean Chalopin, who, along with being a co-creator of cartoon cop Inspector Gadget in the 1980s, is the chairman of Deltec Bank, which, like FTX, is based in the Bahamas. Deltec’s best-known client is Tether, a crypto company with $65 billion in assets offering a stablecoin that is pegged to the dollar.
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It’s unclear how FTX was allowed to buy a stake in a U.S.-licensed bank, which would need to be approved by federal regulators. Banking veterans say it’s hard to believe that regulators would have knowingly allowed FTX to gain control of a U.S. bank.
“The fact that an offshore hedge fund that was basically a crypto firm was buying a stake in a tiny bank for multiples of its stated book value should have raised massive red flags for the F.D.I.C., state regulators and the Federal Reserve,” said Camden Fine, a bank industry consultant who used to head the Independent Community Bankers of America. “It’s just astonishing that all of this got approved.”
LINK
Note it’s the NYT which is supposedly white washing and covering up the entire matter.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:25 pm to fisherscatfan
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Getting a bank charter is so difficult after the Great Recession. Buying a small bank for the charter became popular. Often paying multiples of 2 to 3 times book value. HOWEVER, regulators have to approve and they want a business plan. They examine against that business plan but regulators are more than happy to get rid of small banks as they see them as a nuisance.
Just thinking broadly about ftx’s biz this could be an aspect to the purchase.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:25 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Money laundering of billions upon billions. Nobody doing jack shite about it either
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:29 pm to cwill
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Just thinking broadly about ftx’s biz this could be an aspect to the purchase.
Yeah THAT makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:37 pm to PUB
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Money laundering of billions upon billions.
More like lost and/or simply stolen. The crypto bubble has burst and the frauds and bad business plans are being exposed as the tide recedes. Not everything is a plot.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:37 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Wonder if they looking to sell that pop up
I almost posted the same damn thing
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Explain how this works in your mind.
You think an incredibly regulated and documented business like a bank is a good way to launder money these days?
How hard are regulators looking at a one-branch location on a dirt road which has only 3 employees?
Was the location involved with CDCs? Were they making lots of loans to cash-heavy businesses (laundromats, casinos, bars, etc)?
Like I said, that they put so much money into such a small financial institution should have caused questions to be asked, at least by the Treasury. Were they or did their tiny size allow them to fall under the radar?
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:55 pm to Bard
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How hard are regulators looking at a one-branch location on a dirt road which has only 3 employees?
But why choose a heavily regulated business when there are countless other ways to launder? You don’t launder in the bright light in a regulated biz.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:57 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Someone made $11.5M selling the equivalent of a snowball stand. It sure is great to be a Democrat. You are untouchable.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 1:00 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Was about a 2X on the value. Apparently had around $10MM in deposits at purchase. Per the article forming the basis of the Reddit post - I’ve linked above.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 1:20 pm to cwill
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But why choose a heavily regulated business when there are countless other ways to launder? You don’t launder in the bright light in a regulated biz.
I'm not saying they did this to launder money or not, just saying that it's worth including on a list if you are simply doing general speculation as to reasons why they invested that much money in this specific place.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:42 pm to fisherscatfan
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I spent my career working with community banks. Now most of my clients were much, much larger than that. Most of their branches were bigger than this bank.
However I did have one client that was just 4 million in assets. A guy bought them for the charter. Several years after he bought them, the bank was now over a billion in assets. The new bank became my client because they outgrew the small firm they were using. Now they are over 10 billion in assets and on NASDAQ.
Getting a bank charter is so difficult after the Great Recession. Buying a small bank for the charter became popular. Often paying multiples of 2 to 3 times book value. HOWEVER, regulators have to approve and they want a business plan. They examine against that business plan but regulators are more than happy to get rid of small banks as they see them as a nuisance.
Would love to see the Moonstone bank exams but they are not public information.
Yep, there have been quite a few FinTech companies that have bought small banks in the last few years, primarily to obtain the charter and operate as banks themselves.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:53 pm to cwill
quote:My first thought is SBF was just trying to come up with a way to sneak the letters 'FDIC' into his marketing, make it sound like the marks' money was safe.
Just thinking broadly about ftx’s biz this could be an aspect to the purchase.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:19 pm to NC_Tigah
I love how the only signage on it simply just says "Bank".
Just imagine if Amazon just put "a website" on it's boxes.
Just imagine if Amazon just put "a website" on it's boxes.
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