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Aldous Huxley quote: complacency with the government about the lack of final revolution

Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:38 pm
This is where we are right now. Orwell's 1984 is certainly true from a surveillance state, but Huxley's Brave New World is more in line with what's going on right now.



quote:

“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution” -Aldous Huxley, 1961




Brave New World synopsis:

quote:

Brave New World warns of the dangers of giving the state control over new and powerful technologies. One illustration of this theme is the rigid control of reproduction through technological and medical intervention, including the surgical removal of ovaries, the Bokanovsky Process, and hypnopaedic conditioning. Another is the creation of complicated entertainment machines that generate both harmless leisure and the high levels of consumption and production that are the basis of the World State’s stability. Soma is a third example of the kind of medical, biological, and psychological technologies that Brave New World criticizes most sharply. It is important to recognize the distinction between science and technology. Whereas the State talks about progress and science, what it really means is the bettering of technology, not increased scientific exploration and experimentation. The state uses science as a means to build technology that can create a seamless, happy, superficial world through things such as the “feelies.” The state censors and limits science, however, since it sees the fundamental basis behind science, the search for truth, as threatening to the State’s control. The State’s focus on happiness and stability means that it uses the results of scientific research, inasmuch as they contribute to technologies of control, but does not support science itself.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 7:38 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:40 pm to
Interesting, as he was a massive proponent of psychedelics.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:16 pm to
People have always been sheep.

The Jews on no meds walked into the ovens.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:20 pm to
Psychedelics make you woke, baw.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:32 pm to
Suppose two or more people can look at a quote and get totally different impressions of its intent.

But in any discussion of A. Huxley, it helps to know a little more about him than what has been dispensed by academia in the nation's classrooms over these many years.

He was a friend of Timothy Leary and was first in line when the LSD was offered for consumption to those who wanted the experience. It appears that he actually reveled in it.

He fraternized with members of the Institute for Social Research/Frankfurt School - that little cabal of neo-Marxists we naively allowed in here during the war who held such a virulent hatred for Western Culture - to such an extent that he could legitimately be referred to as one of its originals.

The "final revolution" quote was by him in a speech before a Tavistock Group, at the California Medical Center in 1961.

So he was not unknown to Tavistock - another festering pathogen in the West anchored there in London and Sussex for now over a 100 years.

It is also alleged that he was tasked to supervise the CIA MK-Ultra LSD program that went on for 20 years.

If just a miniscule amount of the above is true, then that quote, along with that analysis of Brave New World are not "warnings" but actually Huxley waxing philosophic about a world and a form of authoritarianism that he would have absolutely no problem with.

Even though a socialist himself, Orwell's writings would qualify as more of a "warning."

We've complained about managed news for awhile, but we've had "managed" education for just as long.

Here's another "quote" from a conversation between Timothy Leary and A. Huxley that gives a further look into the true Huxley.

Huxley to Leary:

“These brain drugs, mass produced in the laboratories, will bring about vast changes in society. This will happen with or without you or me. All we can do is spread the word. The obstacle to this evolution, Timothy, is the Bible."

Leary reflects back on the conversation:

“We had run up against the Judeo-Christian commitment to one God, one religion, one reality, that has cursed Europe for centuries and America since our founding days. Drugs that open the mind to multiple realities inevitably lead to a polytheistic view of the universe.

We both sensed that the time for a new humanist religion based on intelligence, good-natured pluralism and scientific paganism had arrived.”














This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:08 pm to
Just finished brave New world for a second time.

This one my brother recommended that I pick up the one with brave New world "revisited".

Great book.

The exchange between the "Savage" and the world population controller "Mustapha Mond" is fricking fantastic.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15648 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:30 pm to
Orwell's 1984 had the government controlling people by force.

Brave New World had the government controlling people by giving them what they *think* they want.

Orwell and Huxley were men ahead of their time.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56249 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

“These brain drugs, mass produced in the laboratories, will bring about vast changes in society. This will happen with or without you or me. All we can do is spread the word. The obstacle to this evolution, Timothy, is the Bible."



They're not wrong about monotheism, though. It has stunted and promises to continue stunting human development.

Even within each of them, the concept of "one way" fails, there is a splintering of sects, oftentimes involving violence. There is no one way, so the religions themselves are a kind of social device that can only end in destruction.
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