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AG Nominee Barr defended Ruby Ridge killers?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:09 pm
Just saw an IG post from Gun Owners of America that says Barr defended the government killers at Ruby Ridge. LINK
Why is President Trump giving us this frick for an AG?
Why is President Trump giving us this frick for an AG?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:52 pm to troyt37
And here I thought down voting without comment was a socialist democrat trait.
From what I’ve read, if you’re a 2A supporter, and you believe in a less powerful government, you should oppose this guy. Trump has to have lawyers at his disposal who didn’t work to excuse the shite that happened at Ruby Ridge. The government did absolutely nothing correctly there.
From what I’ve read, if you’re a 2A supporter, and you believe in a less powerful government, you should oppose this guy. Trump has to have lawyers at his disposal who didn’t work to excuse the shite that happened at Ruby Ridge. The government did absolutely nothing correctly there.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:09 pm to troyt37
Are you wondering why you're hearing :crickets:?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:11 pm to troyt37
Some people just don't deserve legal representation right?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:14 pm to troyt37
Is that the Ring chick? That sum freaky shite Baw.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:15 pm to troyt37
Working as a government lawyer on a controversial case when a man is just starting his career doesn’t necessarily mean all that you are assuming.
***ETA: I spoke out of my butt. I’m the one made the unwarranted assumption. As penance, I’ll keep my original post intact above.***
***ETA: I spoke out of my butt. I’m the one made the unwarranted assumption. As penance, I’ll keep my original post intact above.***
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:19 pm to Nguyener
Barr received a routine questionnaire from the Judiciary Committee asking him to disclose his past work including pro bono activities “serving the disadvantaged.” The “disadvantaged” that Barr spent the most time helping was an FBI agent who slayed an Idaho mother holding her baby in 1992. Barr spent two weeks organizing former Attorneys General and others to support “an FBI sniper in defending against criminal charges in connection with the Ruby Ridge incident.” Barr also “assisted in framing legal arguments advanced… in the district court and the subsequent appeal to the Ninth Circuit,” he told the committee.
That charitable work (for an FBI agent who already had a federally-paid law firm defending him) helped tamp down one of the biggest scandals during Barr’s time as Attorney General from 1991 to early 1993. Barr was responsible for both the U.S. Marshals Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, two federal agencies whose misconduct at Ruby Ridge “helped to weaken the bond of trust that must exist between ordinary Americans and our law enforcement agencies,” according to a 1995 Senate Judiciary Committee report.
From the link. Dude worked pro bono for the killer, who already had government representation. Not quite the same as defending someone who needed him.
That charitable work (for an FBI agent who already had a federally-paid law firm defending him) helped tamp down one of the biggest scandals during Barr’s time as Attorney General from 1991 to early 1993. Barr was responsible for both the U.S. Marshals Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, two federal agencies whose misconduct at Ruby Ridge “helped to weaken the bond of trust that must exist between ordinary Americans and our law enforcement agencies,” according to a 1995 Senate Judiciary Committee report.
From the link. Dude worked pro bono for the killer, who already had government representation. Not quite the same as defending someone who needed him.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:20 pm to troyt37
Trumps AGs have been underwhelming and I don’t get it. Should’ve rolled with Whitaker
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:21 pm to YankeeBama
What are you getting that from?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:22 pm to troyt37
I'm going to take a wild guess here and say you've never practiced criminal law and have no idea how government lawyers work?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:23 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Ruby Ridge happened on his watch as AG of the United States
Working as a government lawyer on a controversial case when a man is just starting his career doesn’t necessarily mean all that you are assuming.
He wasn't "just starting his career" when he volunteered for the defendant
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:27 pm to Jimbeaux
LINK
What exactly am I assuming, other than the AG nominee doesn’t seem to think the Bill of Rights actually limits the power and scope of the federal government?
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Working as a government lawyer on a controversial case when a man is just starting his career doesn’t necessarily mean all that you are assuming.
What exactly am I assuming, other than the AG nominee doesn’t seem to think the Bill of Rights actually limits the power and scope of the federal government?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:32 pm to Nguyener
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I'm going to take a wild guess here and say you've never practiced criminal law and have no idea how government lawyers work?
You win the prize. How is that relevant to a citizen’s opinion of an AG nominee? How is that relevant to the fact that the man worked for free to defend a killer who worked for the government?
I’ve never been president, but I could sure tell Obama was a piece of shite. You?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:36 pm to troyt37
So he can work for the oppressive leviathan we call Fedgov and that’s fine by you, but he can only do the cases that with the benefit of hindsite you deem acceptable?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:37 pm to troyt37
quote:
Why is President Trump giving us this frick for an AG?
Because he has no clue what hes doing
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:41 pm to troyt37
Barr is an establishment figure.
He believes in deploying the power of the government and defending it. I don’t believe he is a sinister person. Yet he has a clear history of being deferential to government and the flex of its powers. He is very much a team player on the executive branch.
I was unenthused to hear his return as AG. Yet in some aspects I understand it.
He believes in deploying the power of the government and defending it. I don’t believe he is a sinister person. Yet he has a clear history of being deferential to government and the flex of its powers. He is very much a team player on the executive branch.
I was unenthused to hear his return as AG. Yet in some aspects I understand it.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:42 pm to troyt37
quote:
Why is President Trump giving us this frick for an AG?
People have a constitutional right to a competent defense.
Do you not believe in that part?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:44 pm to Robin Masters
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So he can work for the oppressive leviathan we call Fedgov and that’s fine by you, but he can only do the cases that with the benefit of hindsite you deem acceptable?
With the benefit of hindsight? The fedgov showed up to arrest Randy Weaver, and the killer shot his wife with a sniper rifle, while she had her baby in her arms. How much hindsight do you think it takes to say that was bullshite? I could have called that shite before he pulled the trigger. Couldn’t you? Can you imagine the government showing up to arrest you, and then slaughtering your wife? Is there any scenario where that is defensible? Is there any scenario where a sawed off shotgun is the death penalty for anyone?
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:45 pm to AggieDub14
Hope he proves me wrong, but a good criticism on Trump is his appointees, the real important ones, have sucked. Pence has been great, and there have been some good ones, but AG’s have been swampy as shite....
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:47 pm to KosmoCramer
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People have a constitutional right to a competent defense.
Do you not believe in that part?
Absolutely. The killer already had a government team. Barr worked for free. Apples and candy bars.
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