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re: After reading some idiotic comments I figured I’d help a few people to not be idiots...
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:28 pm to 93and99
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:28 pm to 93and99
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What party would that be ?
You're still thinking in terms of a party having to 100% fit your ideals.
I won't change your mind tonight, but remember what I said about opening your mind. If you are able to do it, you'll thank me one day.
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:28 pm to 93and99
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Libertarian Party.
They are worse than Democrats.
I don't think so. The Libertarians seem harmless, and several are actually Randian Conservatives, which is good.
Democrats have been completely subverted by socialists. This is definitely worse.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:31 pm to AUsteriskPride
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Oh, please, do tell more.
I said you can read about it. Easily, too.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:31 pm to BurningHeart
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your ideals.
A party doesn't fit your ideals. You compromise issues that are somewhat important vs bedrock primary principles and vote accordingly.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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said you can read about it. Easily, too
Wonder what value you derive from these drive-bys?
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:33 pm to DeusVultMachina
quote:
A party doesn't fit your ideals. You compromise issues that are somewhat important vs bedrock primary principles and vote accordingly.
You keep agreeing with me but it sounds like you are arguing my points
See my previous post. I said exactly this.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:33 pm to BurningHeart
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BurningHeart
Thanks for your input. I was very pro choice in my younger years until I had kids. At that moment I realized just how much they show personality wise as soon as they are born.
Long story short, my wife and I are going to adopt two kids to grow with our two biological kids, put my care, love, and money where my mouth is so to speak. I know there are unwanted kids out there, I can make a difference for two at least.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:34 pm to BurningHeart
Ha, indeed. I have been known to grab a beer with those I disagree with.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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said you can read about it. Easily, too.
Sounds like you have no point, as your response has been to "read up on biology". I could do that for years, what should I concentrate on?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:48 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:again failing the sled test. if that is your criteria, then LOTS of people should be euthanized because they are dependent on others. murdery people never want to acknowledge that slippery slope
At what stage does “Someone else’s body” survive outside of “Your body”?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:04 pm to DeusVultMachina
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What about the other half of "human being"?
quote:
You are human throughout development. A member of our species.
Man, you need a lot of direction. How about the "being" part?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:since the baby is a person from the moment of conception, the answer to your question is that the baby NEVER lacks that right
The real question is WHEN does the right not to be killed vest in that organism
quote:is it ok to murder people for the sake of convenience? your answer is yes. the mother should not be "burdened" with pregnancy if it inconveniences her life
we legally and morally kill living organisms all the time
quote:prove it.
"it is human." I disagree
quote:i have never thought that way of you either. you are misguided although you are trying your level best to be conscientious. my only problem with you is when you dip into the juvenile buckeye comments and question my intelligence. i have understood every facet of your points and rebutted them. you have not reciprocated. when your position met with resistance, you just started ignoring me instead of engaging on substance. however, i have noticed that your language on the matter has very gradually softened and become more nuanced over the last few exchanges
I think they are wrong in asserting that you have ill motives
quote:probably because of all too often things like
your side tends almost uniformly to impute ill motives to those who feel that the right in question vests at some later time
this
and
this
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:10 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:she can't give the baby up for adoption? is that not an option?
So a 13 year old girl gets raped and she has to just deal with it?
quote:does a woman have the right to murder someone merely for the sake of convenience. yes or no.
Abortion isn't a black and white issue just because you say it is
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:11 pm to bfniii
We had ended this thread with coming to a close middle ground between the two sides... was glorious.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:12 pm to AggieHank86
quote:oh good grief. you actually finally responded somewhat on substance and now you regress back into the idiotic buckeye childish retorts.
He is like the tar baby from Uncle Remus. LET GO before it is too late. If you continue to engage, he will never stop and will still be following you around like a gadfly in December 2021
so, you get to post your idiotic crap all over but i'm not allowed to respond. explain that
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:14 pm to wookalar1013
quote:nope not a strawman. women are advocating for this constantly. "my body my choice" is PRECISELY that - murder for convenience. if i don't WANT the baby, i can murder it, now even up to the moment of delivery in some places.
you’re not smart enough to recognize the straw man argument you’re suggesting
if you disagree, explain how it's a strawman genius
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:16 pm to AggieHank86
quote:you have never shown that ANYTHING i have said is stupid. all you did was tuck your tail between your legs when you got your arse kicked.
He will spend 20 pages making arguments so stupid
i issued you a SIMPLE challenge. where are you tough guy?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:wait, hank is saying i won't quit and you're saying i quit. you phags need to figure it out
You're a coward and you'd just duck out again.
show a thread where i ever "quit"
btw, you are trash. you never respond on substance. all you do is waste everyone's time. you and hank are two of the worst personalities on this board
i posted a simple challenge. let's see your response champ
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Prove it is a person
you can't be serious. you need PROOF? that the organism in the mother's womb is a human person? do you not understand biology at all?
at the moment of conception, the organism has EVERYTHING it will ever need to be a person provided it's growth and development are never hindered. there is no "personhood gap" between parents and offspring. if you disagree, prove it.
this is the stupidity humanity is dealing with.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:25 pm to texridder
quote:hank stupidly is
I'm not saying she has that right
quote:it is a person from the moment of conception. my gosh how do people not know this?
when does the fetus become a human being?
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