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Afghans: "I don't want your life!"

Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:01 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:01 am
To me this is just like in Varsity Blues... when Mox's dad is going on about playing football at West Canaan and Mox tells him, "I don't want your life!"

The Afghan people do not want an American style of life. They do not want our freedoms, our education, our respect for women, they want none of it. They do not want our style of government. They do not want us there, they do not want anything to do with us.

This has been obvious to anyone who has paid attention. However, our military and political leaders, on both sides of the aisle, refused to accept this. They thought... oh, they want us there! Oh, once we give them a taste, they will love us! They want freedom!

They don't want freedom.

I don't understand it. But it's very clear.

And so, we spent 20 years, trillions of dollars, and an insane number of American lives, trying to give the Afghans a gift that they can't wait to return to sender.

There are other ways to defend our homeland from terrorists. This was never going to work.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:02 am to
This was my first thought when I read the thread, “Pentagon confirms they plan to relocate up to 30,000 Afghan Special Immigrant Visa.”
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9890 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:02 am to
Some do, some don't.

But you can't force it on them. You can't sit in their country for 20 years, let 50,000 civilians die and TELL them they're going to be Westernized now.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4217 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Afghans: "I don't want your life!"


Should have been apparent to any rational person 15 years ago.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12358 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:03 am to
There are good people there who don’t support the Taliban and liked our help. Look at the people who helped Marcus Luttrell.

I agree that their country will never become one that embraces and keeps democracy. Their ideology and other circumstances will always welcome tyranny.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53768 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:04 am to
OP, then why are these Afghans clinging to an airplane that's taking off?

they obviously don't want the life that is coming to their neighborhood

I don't want Afghans here in the USA

I mean, we are lost mut of a nation

75% of commercials show interracial couples, the rest mock white men

Why can't white men have their country where they are a majority like all of rest of the races in the world have their nations?

please advise

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58543 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:04 am to
quote:

The Afghan people do not want an American style of life. They do not want our freedoms, our education, our respect for women, they want none of it. They do not want our style of government. They do not want us there, they do not want anything to do with us


We tried to impose globohomo on them, but they don't want it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56192 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:05 am to
I said years ago that we either take over Afghanistan and Iraq and make them US territories or we get completely out. Yes, it is easy to bang on Biden about this, but it had to happen eventually. I give him credit for having the balls to do it. Yes, it is a shite show.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6695 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:06 am to
Anyone ever hear of Marcus Latrells story when he befriended the Afghan guy who saved his life? The guy said he was in trouble over there, Marcus sent him money, the guy said he needed more. So Marcus was gonna set him up with a cattle ranch in Texas so he could provide for himself and live here. The guy didn’t want it, just more money. We are importing 30k leeches. They have been living in that shithole, so living in “poverty” here would be quite nice.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9890 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:07 am to
Broad brush based on a single anecdote? Check.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56192 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:07 am to
quote:

OP, then why are these Afghans clinging to an airplane that's taking off?
Because they dont want Daddy to leave.

quote:

they obviously don't want the life that is coming to their neighborhood

No, they do. They want it, they dont want to get raped and murdered by the Taliban. But they have zero desire nor will to defend themselves in spite of thousands of brave Americans that died for them to have that chance, not to mention the billions spend training and arming them. We led the horse to water, he did not drink.
quote:

I mean, we are lost mut of a nation

75% of commercials show interracial couples, the rest mock white men

Why can't white men have their country where they are a majority like all of rest of the races in the world have their nations?

please advise

Quit being a goofball, that is my advice.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

However, our military and political leaders, on both sides of the aisle, refused to accept this. They thought... oh, they want us there! Oh, once we give them a taste, they will love us! They want freedom!


That is just the PR, the big lie for the masses. The powers centers that decided it was a good idea to stay in Afghanistan for 20 years have their own reasons for being there but would rather not talk about those reasons in public and besides, it is none of your business! Thank you and now, move along and be quiet.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6444 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Pentagon confirms they plan to relocate up to 30,000 Afghan Special Immigrant Visa.”


And almost all of them men. Not wives and families as we were told.

Rape stats about to shoot through the roof.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6695 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Broad brush based on a single anecdote? Check.


Yep. Look at the Somalis we have living over here.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48248 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

We tried to impose globohomo on them, but they don't want it.


This must be a factor. Any reasonable person must admit that some Afghans must NOT wish to import 2021 USA Culture.

It is a mistake to assume that Afghans view the US Culture of 1990 and say "I don't want that." The Culture of the USA that would be imported to Afghanistan would be the 2021 version of US Culture! TODAY'S version of our Culture. Yes, they want 1990 US Culture for themselves, but that Culture no longer exists in the USA, and they must decide whether they want 2021 US Culture! They might not want that.

WHAT is the Culture of the USA here today, in 2021? It is a Culture that HALF of US citizens don't want, because it is too Radical Left, and too morally bankrupt!

What person in Afghanistan is their right mind would want 2021 culture for themselves? Homosexuals, yes. Transgendered, yes. Committed Communists, yes.

Normal people in Afghanistan probably do NOT want to import 2021 US Culture to their country.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:13 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9890 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Look at the Somalis we have living over here.


Tell me more.
Posted by DangerousWafer
Member since Aug 2021
228 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:12 am to
I mean you'd have a point if you lived in Europe. A point I disagree with but a point nonetheless.

quote:

Why can't white men have their country where they are a majority like all of rest of the races in the world have their nations?


You're talking about the US, right? The US? A country that was taken by white settlers?
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:13 am
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:13 am to
I don’t want our governments life either.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125388 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Anyone ever hear of Marcus Latrells story when he befriended the Afghan guy who saved his life? The guy said he was in trouble over there, Marcus sent him money, the guy said he needed more. So Marcus was gonna set him up with a cattle ranch in Texas so he could provide for himself and live here. The guy didn’t want it, just more money. We are importing 30k leeches. They have been living in that shithole, so living in “poverty” here would be quite nice.


That’s incorrect

As the guy now lives in TX

And the two meet up on the regular and their families are friends

He went into detail on this a few months ago on Rohan’s podcast
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:17 am to
Above all I think afghans just want to be left alone. It is a place that has always been fought over by various empires and the locals get caught in the crossfire. I'd also not really care to much for the globohomo neo liberal order the US represents either if I where them; its bad enough here at home.
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