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re: Add me to the list of saying Kimmel did not say what people say he said.

Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:40 pm to
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No, he didn’t


You're just trolling now.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:43 pm to
We need to remember the name “Ag Zwin” as not only a moron, but a moron who doubled down and came across as an even bigger moron
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:47 pm to
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That doesn’t mean he was saying a MAGA person shot Charlie.


Correct. He was saying that the MAGAS were trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than MAGA. Which clearly implies that the shooter was MAGA.

There’s no other way to interpret that without doing violence to the English language.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:48 pm to
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We know more now. Over the weekend, though, there were still a lot of questions about who the shooter was and what his motivations were. We were still learning these things, but the right were doing all they could to head off any idea it might be one of their own.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 5:49 pm
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:50 pm to
The problem with Kimmel is he always pandered to only one audience, the DEMs, and his boss, Disney, is trying to sell their product to everyone.

He didn't read the room, it was not a good time to make any statement at all about 1 side versus the other side. Leave that up to Fox News and CNN, not his show that is supposed to be a talk show with jokes.. It was a bad business decision on his part..
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 5:53 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:52 pm to
Why is he referencing that part of his monologue? He didn’t say anything wrong there according to you.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33358 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:55 pm to
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In the text I posted in the OP, he did not say (or even imply) the shooter was MAGA.

If you understand the English language, then you could see that he said the kid was MAGA, word for word
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We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

Firstly, anything after the word "and" is just an addendum. It doesnt clarify or lessen his accusation. For example, "I had some great food and got a tan" Getting a tan doesnt change anything about your feelings on the food. So lets toss that last part out
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We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

Next you can toss the lead. Its simply defines the timeline. We now are left with
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the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

This is the meat of Kimmels comment. MAGA is the target. He then ID'd the shooter, so all that remains is Kimmels accusation
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as anything other than one of them

'as anything' is used to add emphasis to an adjective or adverb

'other than' means besides or except for

Translation: MAGA is desperately trying to emphatically characterize the shooter as something besides being one of them

He said it. With his own choice of words. And still hasnt clarified it for you, on any social media
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:57 pm to
"We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52002 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:58 pm to
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He said very specifically that the murderer was not “anything other than one of them” (MAGA).

No he didn’t. You are showing an inability to parse a sentence. He accused MAGA of trying, before the killer’s motives were known, to assign motives that were anything but MAGA. That is not saying that the killer was MAGA.

Lost in this is that the left was doing the same thing. It’s human nature. SNL had a skit about it once.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25217 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:58 pm to
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No he didn’t. You are showing an inability to parse a sentence. He accused MAGA of trying, before the killer’s motives were known, to assign motives that were anything but MAGA. That is not saying that the killer was MAGA.


The exact point I have been making.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52002 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:59 pm to
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This is not the same as cancel culture from the left.

It is the same; and it’s glorious.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125300 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:00 pm to
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You are showing an inability to parse a sentence. He accused MAGA of trying, before the killer’s motives were known, to assign motives that were anything but MAGA. That is not saying that the killer was MAGA.


This is one of those “let me slaughter the English language” attempts.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17876 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:02 pm to
Both of you losers should get a room and give into your urges. Disgusting.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52002 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:08 pm to
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He knew the guy was a leftist and still said he was MAGA.

That is a lie. He did not say the guy was MAGA. Go back and read the quote. If you can’t parse it and understand your mistake, then you are not smart enough to discuss it.

He was being critical of MAGA for jumping to the conclusion that the killer was a leftist, before enough facts were known.

I don’t agree with him that there were not enough facts known - we had tranny hieroglyphics on the shells and the victim was a anti-tranny agenda conservative - to make a reasonable guess that the killer was a leftist.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46044 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:08 pm to
Jesus dude.

He lied. There’s no way around it. The fact that you keep doubling down on a clear and glaring lie says more about you than the folks upset about it.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17366 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:10 pm to
Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46044 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:11 pm to
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Anything other than one of them


Are you retarded?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11102 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Lost in this is that the left was doing the same thing. It’s human nature. SNL had a skit about it once.


That’s the entire point. He could’ve said both sides, he specifically said maga and whether you want to admit it or not it confirmed what his left leaning audience thinks.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47367 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:31 pm to
Ladies and gentlemen, an Aggie nutjob
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22643 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:35 pm to
Well this aged great now that ABC released why the fired him.

Congrats you got suckered by emotion of the Dems
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