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Abortion ghouls and lovers- The SCOTUS IS NOT OVERTURNING ROE

Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10149 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:02 am
Such a false flag. No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.


So quit whining.



Now, it is possible that some state law restrictions on abortion legislation may be upheld by the SCOTUS- possibly.

Namely: banning partial birth and those performed at certain trimesters etc.

**Personally, with regard to partial birth, I think it should be mandatory that there be a video of one shown on all networks at a given time so that everyone can see what that really is. And also, an abortion shown in late trimester pregnancies for the same reason if and when such a case reached the high court again. Once you see it if you can still be for those- May god have mercy on your souls.

But rest assured that you will still be able to go and get the fetus sucked out of you at Planned Parenthood.

This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:03 am to
Typical. Spread fear to garner votes.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39054 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Such a false flag. No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.


Kind of a stupid point when Roe v Wade did exactly that.
Posted by YF12
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.



Lie

As if its the first time either
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58510 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.


True.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24601 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:06 am to
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Covingtontiger77


You may want to look at what ROE overturned.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:06 am to
Brown overturning Plessy, is precedent for overturning Roe.

Abortion returns to the individual states.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:07 am to
quote:

The SCOTUS IS NOT OVERTURNING ROE





Why not? It should be overturned.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10149 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Abortion returns to the individual states.



Ban bet? Mark this. I’ll go out with a porn bomb on the poli board if Roe is overturned.


Just like they are not overturning gay marriage.

Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3832 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:14 am to

I remember reading a while back that overturning Roe would actually be a positive outcome for the pro-choice movement.

Contrary to what many think, overturning Roe doesn't outlaw abortion, it simply allows states to decide the matter. And most states would keep the status quo. The few that would outlaw it (like Utah and Mississippi) already have few and abysmal options. Banning Roe would result in a huge outpouring of support and money that would result in a shiny new abortion clinics built on the state line with transportation services, etc.

Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Such a false flag. No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.


So quit whining.




Given the complete f*cking absurdity of the "logic" of Roe, there is a possibility that it could be overturned. It would probably take a court comprised of 8 extremely conservative justices to get 5 to overturn it, but it could happen.



quote:

Now, it is possible that some state law restrictions on abortion legislation may be upheld by the SCOTUS- possibly.


Rather than trimester, I think a law prohibiting abortions past the potential viability of a fetus could be upheld. As of now, the earliest born baby to survive was at 21 weeks. That's about 5 months. With medical advancements in the future, it's conceivable that fetuses can be viable at 16-20 weeks. That would put any prohibition based on viability about half way through the second trimester.

Another possibility is that states implement prohibitions based upon when the fetus can noticeably feel pain. Again, given the medical advancements in the future, that may prohibit abortions into the first trimester.

In any event, it is "probably likely" that regulations regarding such things as admitting privileges will be upheld in the future if the Republicans can get this nominee through to the Supreme Court.


This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:23 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:18 am to
no way republicans will ever say abortion is settled. They have been calling Dems baby killers for 40yrs..
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18524 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:18 am to
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Such a false flag. No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.




I tend to disagree. We now have so much more scientific data on fetal development than we did 40 years ago. Roe is a complete violation of equal protection amongst other well historied constitutional precedents.

Not saying they will come out and straight up vacate it (or whatever the legal term is) but they will erode it significantly because it should be.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:24 am to
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Ban bet? Mark this. I’ll go out with a porn bomb on the poli board if Roe is overturned. Just like they are not overturning gay marriage.

Certainty is no guarantor of correctness.

Margaret Heffernan

If you loose I gain nothing from your self banning. But, I would give you style points for porn bomb! And it’s a stupid bet for you because I will just keep saying “wait for it”.


Edit: Plessy 1896 and Brown 1954, are 58 years apart. Roe 1973 is only 47 years old. You couldn’t collect until 2031, if then.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:29 am
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:26 am to
Would be a major betrayal to not go after Roe when the Supreme Court is conservative for the first time in generations
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66974 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:28 am to
Not only should Roe V. Wade be overturned, but so should KELO v. New London, Wickard v. Filburn, and Village of Euclid v. Amber Realty just for starters.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20185 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:29 am to
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Abortion ghouls and lovers-


Quite the phonies...they claim, generally, that their quest is for bodily rights for themselves and others...My body, my choice right? However I have never heard them get riled up for something THAT IS ACTUALLY ILLEGAL such as selling a kidney for example. I mean seriously, think of all the lives that would be saved by allowing this plus all the poor people their ilk tries to claim to be for...some of these poor people could make mint by selling a kidney. Might actually improve their quality of life in the big picture, even though they might be down a kidney...the monies they make might overcompensate for this to their good health.

I am not trying to be ghoulish...but let's be real, the "Pro-choice" crew are full of shite with their argument and totally disingenuous with this whole "My body, my choice" tripe. Their beef is strictly focused on having abortion legal for a defacto form of birth control. Again, this is evidenced by their silence on the plight of those who want to use their body to improve their lot in life. I really don't see these pro-choice folks holding many demonstrations or being very vocal on the whole prostitution thing either. Again, something illegal, unlike abortion, but it directly pertains to someone having the right to do as they wish with their body. I am not advocating organ sales nor prostitution myself but clearly the "pro-choice" folks are not being honest with the real reason they are so narrowly focused on abortion specifically.

Finally, let's look at yet another litmus test of many on the left who claim our bodies should be our choice...how about hydroxychloroquine? I hear many liberals doing what they can to make sure those who would wish to be prescribed this medication not be able to receive it. Again, this happens to be something liberals oppose since Trump advocates this medicine so therefore their whole willingness for body and choice doesn't quite seem to jive with how they actually come down on this subject. I understand the libs don't expect to be called out on their phony ways by any entity of count but they are not as smart as they think they are because it doesn't take much to spot their duplicity with their precious abortion worship.

This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:30 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:30 am to
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No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.

Unless it's bad...read what Thomas said about shitty precedents.....overfrickingturn them
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24732 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Such a false flag. No court, no matter the makeup, is overturning 40+ year of precedent.


So quit whining.
woman should have the right to kill their young - Covingtontiger77
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66974 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:40 am to
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Unless it's bad...read what Thomas said about shitty precedents.....overfrickingturn them


Agreed. One thing the Civil Law system gets right is that there is no Stare Decicis. In the Common Law, a precedent becomes stronger with age until it becomes Stare Decicis, and is considered to be unreproachable authority on a given issue. The Civil Law recognizes no such concept, and as such, the highest courts reverse themselves far more often.

In my experience, Stare Decicis only exists as an excuse not to question bad law, a defense for the otherwise indefensible. With that in mind, I’d even overturn McCulloch v. Maryland. If Congress’s law isn’t supported by an enumerated power, they can get f$&ked.
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