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Abolish all welfare programs and give the poor a lump sum/monthly equivalent of the funds
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:34 pm
Would save money on net because of bureaucratic jobs that could be slashed. No more individual departments for health funds, food funds, housing funds, etc.
Would raise standard of living for the poor because economic choice theory (indifference curves) says utility is maximized when the government program gives the poor the funds rather than a specific good/service
Will never get through because asshats in both parties would complain the money wouldn’t be spent on good things
Would raise standard of living for the poor because economic choice theory (indifference curves) says utility is maximized when the government program gives the poor the funds rather than a specific good/service
Will never get through because asshats in both parties would complain the money wouldn’t be spent on good things
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Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Abolish all welfare programs.
FIFY
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I like the idea in theory but in reality it would just dilute the value of the dollar
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No because poor people are poor because they are bad with money. Not because they don’t have money.
ETA: I think welfare system is bad though as it stands. Needs to be completely overhauled by Trump and the squad
ETA: I think welfare system is bad though as it stands. Needs to be completely overhauled by Trump and the squad
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:38 pm to RTRLSD
I have an idea. Deport all illegals and send the welfare queens out to the fields to work those jobs that "Americans don't want."
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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lump sum/monthly
Welfare should NEVER be in the form of money.
Food, clothing, work/school supplies. That's it. And only for a limited time.
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:39 pm to olemissfan26
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No because poor people are poor because they are bad with money. Not because they don’t have money.
Poor people are poor because they have low IQ.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:41 pm to RTRLSD
There are plenty of low IQ people that know they can’t sit on their arse and watch tv and drink beer all day.
It’s not about IQ. It’s about lack of personal responsibility over the span of years and even decades for some people
It’s not about IQ. It’s about lack of personal responsibility over the span of years and even decades for some people
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:44 pm to olemissfan26
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There are plenty of low IQ people that know they can’t sit on their arse and watch tv and drink beer all day.
It’s not about IQ. It’s about lack of personal responsibility over the span of years and even decades for some people
It's definitely about IQ if we're talking about averages. On average, lower IQ = lower income.
"Bad with money" is just another way of saying "dumb."
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:44 pm to RTRLSD
I’ve met plenty of simple people who worked hard and provided for their families.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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give the poor a lump sum/monthly
So, how are their purchases of drugs, booze and lottery tickets gonna keep them alive?
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:46 pm to RTRLSD
quote:
Bad with money" is just another way of saying "dumb."
There are plenty of smart people who are terrible with money.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What do you do with the massive numbers of then-unemployed people?
You can't slash & burn these programs. You have to create a trajectory that dwindles them down.
You can't slash & burn these programs. You have to create a trajectory that dwindles them down.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:48 pm to starsandstripes
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What do you do with the massive numbers of then-unemployed people?
Deport illegals and send them to work. Pretty simple.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:50 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Welfare should NEVER be in the form of money.
Why?
We spend more money in the long run trying to divert all of these services and needs to them.
I had a similar thread on this. The amount that we've spent and continue to spend is jaw dropping and it has literally 0 effect on getting people out of poverty.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Abolish all welfare programs and give the poor a lump sum/monthly equivalent of the funds
in exchange for their voluntary sterilization.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:51 pm to Zach
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So, how are their purchases of drugs, booze and lottery tickets gonna keep them alive?
Would be no worse than what is currently happening
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:51 pm to starsandstripes
Every society has poverty, and people who can’t or don’t contribute much.
Do we let these people starve? Or do we choose to provide for them? And how much do we provide?
The Romans gave out free bread to the poor to ensure stability in Rome. To avoid unrest.
Do we let these people starve? Or do we choose to provide for them? And how much do we provide?
The Romans gave out free bread to the poor to ensure stability in Rome. To avoid unrest.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:52 pm to RTRLSD
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Deport illegals and send them to work. Pretty simple.
Not that I disagree with that....but, have you seen the dysfunction in DC? You really think they're going to be able to make all the changes necessary to make that happen?
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:53 pm to Powerman
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I had a similar thread on this. The amount that we've spent and continue to spend is jaw dropping and it has literally 0 effect on getting people out of poverty.
That’s why the war on poverty rhetoric was so off target.
These programs may make poverty kinder, easier, but they won’t get people out of poverty.
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