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A question I have for women who complain they aren’t paid the same as men.

Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:04 am
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:04 am
We’ve been hearing about this a lot over the years. “Gender pay gap is real!” “There is a glass ceiling!” “White men make all the money!”

I’m just wondering, if you’re at a company that is supposedly not paying you a fair wage, why not go somewhere else? I want to see the clause in the employment contract that is forcing them to be an employee there. They obviously are making them stay there to work for “lower wages.” And then show me the clause in the Constitution that says you have a write to this job with the salary you deem to be fair.

tl;dr your salary is generally commensurate with your education, experience, and performance.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 10:06 am
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13302 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:07 am to
Gender pay gap has been proven false time and again. There are variables involved, and they are important ones. Feminists and socialist democrats insist on ignoring those facts.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:08 am to
Does anyone know what the source is for this claim? I hear people say it all the time but I've never seen the actual source study that concludes women make less than men. I want to know what methodology they used to come to this conclusion.

Did they compare all men and all women across all industry to determine that on average men make more?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17970 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:10 am to
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Did they compare all men and all women across all industry to determine that on average men make more?



Pretty much.

Take a hospital for instance. They average all the male employees (who tend to be doctors and administrators) and the female employees (some doctors, but most nurses and office workers) and say that men make more.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:11 am to
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Gender pay gap has been proven false time and again.


It's not false at all.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6063 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:11 am to
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Gender pay gap has been proven false time and again. There are variables involved, and they are important ones. Feminists and socialist democrats insist on ignoring those facts.


This all damn day.

Hell, its against the damn law.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:15 am to
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Did they compare all men and all women across all industry to determine that on average men make more?


We need to do this. Hands across America, analyze the wages and salaries of every American and see what the data shows!
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11060 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:16 am to
Ironically there are studies that indicate that urban young professional women out earn their male peers and that gap deminishes over time due to life choices i.e. having a kid. This makes sense, they are more educated and more mature versus male YUPIES.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:20 am to
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It's not false at all.

please explain.. cant wait to hear this commie bullshite
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6434 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:25 am to
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It's not false at all.


Give us some evidence and the methodology to support the conclusion. I doubt it exists. If companies could pay woman 2/3 or 4/5 of what they pay men why would they ever hire men?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13446 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:26 am to
A better question is why are any of these women unemployed? If a business could pay a woman less to do the same job as a man why would they hire the man?

Business owners want to make money, they dont give a shite about "muh patriarchy".
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21351 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:27 am to
Why do women wait around for a man to promote them and if they don't get the promotion then boss man is a sexist. Why don't chick's just start their own bank, invent something and sell it, take control of your work and start your own business.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13302 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:32 am to
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It's not false at all.


Feel free to inform us, Skippy. Just know, there is a mountain of facts out there that proves your full of shite, and I'm willing to go find it, post it, and prove your full of shite.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
756 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:33 am to
This article links many of the studies, including the most recent Bolotnyy study that seeks to examine causes. In such study, they do isolate to the same job, find a $0.89/hour pay difference, but find it can be attributed to acceptance of overtime hours accepted by the males.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16668 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:36 am to
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Gender pay gap has been proven false time and again. There are variables involved, and they are important ones. Feminists and socialist democrats insist on ignoring those facts.


When controlling for occupation, experience, hours worked and other variables, there exists a 1- 5% gap in pay between women and men. I think it was a recent Stanford study that found an average difference of $.04 per $1.

The pay gap varies with age. For new college graduates, women actually make more than men, probably because they’re in higher demand as many companies face pressure to increase their number of female employees. So there’s an initial pay gap with women making more than men. Men and women reach parity in their 30’s and then the initial gap inverts with men surpassing women in their 40’s and 50’s.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 11:19 am
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1130 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:37 am to
From prageru and worth 5 minutes of your time. It kills the argument with logic and hard data.

Prageru Wage Gap (youtube)
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:39 am to
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It's not false at all.


What are you basing that claim on?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:42 am to
If they don't take into account acceptance of the first offer then the conclusions are crap. Are men more prone to say no to the first offer? If this hasn't been studied then any research is garbage.

I would bet the average man is more aggressive with salary negotiation than the average woman.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13302 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:45 am to
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When controlling for occupation, experience, hours worked and other variables, there exists a 1- 5% gap in pay between women and men. I think it was a recent Stanford study that found an average difference of $.04 per $1. The pay gay varies with age. For new college graduates, women actually make more than men, probably because they’re in higher demand as many companies face pressure to increase their number of female employees. So there’s an initial pay gap with women making more than men. Men and women reach parity in their 30’s and then the initial gap inverts with men surpassing women in their 40’s and 50’s.


So administrators, HR personnel, and headhunters everywhere are simply too dumb to exclusively hire women, and save themselves 1-5% in payroll?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16668 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 11:17 am to
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So administrators, HR personnel, and headhunters everywhere are simply too dumb to exclusively hire women, and save themselves 1-5% in payroll?
No because the quality of one’s work is largely subjective.
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