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A Generation of Lost Boys
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:48 am
I am a late GenXer that had a brother 14 years older than me. He is a SVP at an international company. Our parents barely graduated high school.
I always had him to look up to. By the time I was in high school, his career was taking off, but he always made time for me. When I was in college, he would regularly meet me halfway for dinner, and slip me a $100 bill now and then because he knew I didn't make a lot of money in college.
His son, my nephew is 23 years old. He went to Samford, got a marketable degree with zero debt. He graduated over a year ago and refuses to move out of his parents' home. He won't apply for a job. He won't apply to graduate school. His parents bought him a luxury vehicle that he never drives. If he doesn't like what is cooked in the home, he throws a tantrum and my sister in law goes and gets him Taco Bell.
He has never had a meaningful relationship, he's addicted to porn and video games. My brother, who mentored me into a successful life, has allowed his own son to be like this. Which begs the question, has this happened en masse with this generation of young men?
My hypothesis on my nephew is that he grew up in such luxury that he does not want to leave his home of origin. But after seeing the 20 somethings and the way they are acting during these protests, I think its bigger. We completely failed this generation of young men.
I always had him to look up to. By the time I was in high school, his career was taking off, but he always made time for me. When I was in college, he would regularly meet me halfway for dinner, and slip me a $100 bill now and then because he knew I didn't make a lot of money in college.
His son, my nephew is 23 years old. He went to Samford, got a marketable degree with zero debt. He graduated over a year ago and refuses to move out of his parents' home. He won't apply for a job. He won't apply to graduate school. His parents bought him a luxury vehicle that he never drives. If he doesn't like what is cooked in the home, he throws a tantrum and my sister in law goes and gets him Taco Bell.
He has never had a meaningful relationship, he's addicted to porn and video games. My brother, who mentored me into a successful life, has allowed his own son to be like this. Which begs the question, has this happened en masse with this generation of young men?
My hypothesis on my nephew is that he grew up in such luxury that he does not want to leave his home of origin. But after seeing the 20 somethings and the way they are acting during these protests, I think its bigger. We completely failed this generation of young men.
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:50 am to anc
Rich people suck and their kids suck even harder
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:51 am to anc
quote:probably has something to do with females taking the jobs they would have had then
think its bigger. We completely failed this generation of young men.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:52 am to anc
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:54 am to anc
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:54 am to anc
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His son, my nephew is 23 years old. He went to Samford, got a marketable degree with zero debt. He graduated over a year ago and refuses to move out of his parents' home. He won't apply for a job. He won't apply to graduate school. His parents bought him a luxury vehicle that he never drives. If he doesn't like what is cooked in the home, he throws a tantrum and my sister in law goes and gets him Taco Bell.
Kids should always have some "skin in the game". Doesn't matter how well off you are.
It blows me away how many college kids have never had a job.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:54 am to anc
I think it mostly all comes down to social media. It’s poisoned us.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:56 am to upgrayedd
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Great gif usage.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:56 am to Bistineaubengal
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It blows me away how many college kids have never had a job.
That's the one that boggles my mind. I think a lot of kids really think the world works like the Drake song
"Started from the bottom, and here we are"
The concept of hard work and gaining experience to build from is lost on a lot of kids today.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:09 am to anc
I’m a college prof and I’ve seen plenty of rich kids who have strong work ethic. This is a failure on the parents - no offense to your brother. They were likely “lawnmower” parents who mow down any obstacles in their child’s life.
I just cannot imagine being a parent and allowing my child to walk all over me like that. They’re enabling him. He’ll never amount to anything unless they cut him off and force him to make his own way.
Out of curiosity, do they complain about his behavior? Or excuse it?
ETA: To address the big picture of this generation, I think it’s a combination of how convenient our lives are these days and the aforementioned “lawnmower” parents, who evolved from the millennials’ “helicopter” parents.
I just cannot imagine being a parent and allowing my child to walk all over me like that. They’re enabling him. He’ll never amount to anything unless they cut him off and force him to make his own way.
Out of curiosity, do they complain about his behavior? Or excuse it?
ETA: To address the big picture of this generation, I think it’s a combination of how convenient our lives are these days and the aforementioned “lawnmower” parents, who evolved from the millennials’ “helicopter” parents.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:17 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
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I’m a college prof and I’ve seen plenty of rich kids who have strong work ethic. This is a failure on the parents - no offense to your brother. They were likely “lawnmower” parents who mow down any obstacles in their child’s life.
I just cannot imagine being a parent and allowing my child to walk all over me like that. They’re enabling him. He’ll never amount to anything unless they cut him off and force him to make his own way.
Out of curiosity, do they complain about his behavior? Or excuse it?
No offense taken - I believe it. I think his mom really took over.
The one time I had a Jerry Springer Christmas -
When he was maybe 11 or 12, he didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. He threw a plate across the room. My dad got up and said some choice words and my sister in law took my nephew and left. My brother and my dad got into a verbal screaming match which ended with my brother saying "You upset my wife, now I have to deal with it."
My brother barely talks to anyone these days. My dad says he knows it and is defeated.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:17 am to chateaublanc
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Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times
This x1000000000!!!!
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:21 am to anc
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My hypothesis on my nephew is that he grew up in such luxury that he does not want to leave his home of origin.
that's basically it
same with why these concepts people are rallying against are so esoteric
in somewhat of a paradox, it's also more rigged now against young people. upward growth in traditional jobs is very expensive (you have to move to urban areas that are way over priced) and takes a lot longer to get economic gratification (in large part due to glut of applicants and boomers who couldn't manage money and won't retire).
JPs best quote from his best lecture covers this perfectly
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But, I mean, if you really ask yourself would you be so sure, if you had the choice: I can live with no responsibility whatsoever, the price I pay is that nothing matters; or: I can reverse it, and everything matters, but I have to take the responsibility that’s associated with that. It’s not so obvious to me that people would take the meaningful path. Now, when you say: well, nihilists suffer dreadfully because there’s no meaning in their life and they still suffer; yeah, but the advantage is they have no responsibility. So that’s the payoff, and I actually think that’s the motivation. Saying: well, I can’t help being nihilistic, all my belief systems have collapsed; it’s like: yeah, maybe, maybe you’ve just allowed them to collapse because it’s a hell of a lot easier than acting them out. And the price you pay is some meaningless suffering, but you can always whine about that and people will feel sorry for you, and you have the option of taking the pathway of the martyr, so that’s a pretty good deal, all things considered. Especially when the alternative is to bear your burden properly and to live forthrightly in the world.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:24 am to SirWinston
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I think it mostly all comes down to social media. It’s poisoned us.
that just manifests the issues with a society that runs on credit and not production that has, in combination with governmental spending policy, over-consolidated key aspects of life while over-inflating the costs of life
what social media does is permit the very worst aspects of our lives to become marketable within this shitty paradigm
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:25 am to anc
My gay son (still getting past that one through prayer) is a 26 y/o GA Tech Engineer dating a highly-academically rewarded, resident surgeon both living in downtown Atlanta.
They are both Christian-conservatives who will vote Trump - son thinks Trump is hilarious and friend will vote for Trump despite Trump. Now...virtually all their friends in ATL are ridiculously leftist.
They are both Christian-conservatives who will vote Trump - son thinks Trump is hilarious and friend will vote for Trump despite Trump. Now...virtually all their friends in ATL are ridiculously leftist.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:34 am to anc
If boys acted like boys in school, they’ve been medicated. We’ve cut the nuts off of boys in recent years. So sad.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:41 am to 257WBY
Rich kids are typically coddled and over-spoiled. If you have no hardship growing up and everything is handed to you, you turn out to be a dumb frick
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:41 am to FiddleHead
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Rich people suck and their kids suck even harder
you're right having money sucks, take it from me! it sucks not having to worry about bills or when your child starts college you simply pay their tuition with the money you earn, what a novel concept!
being able to afford your kids the experience of study abroad's take it from me you don't want any part of that!
you're the lucky one!
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:57 am to anc
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My hypothesis on my nephew is that he grew up in such luxury that he does not want to leave his home of origin
This is a theory I’ve heard before and it makes lots of sense. In past generations, kids grew up in homes that didn’t have much. They were forced to do chores and they dreamed about leaving and making a better life for themselves.
Current kids have everything imaginable growing up, aren’t forced to do chores, and their standard of living might drop if they leave the house, so why should they?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:00 am to anc
before you say anything, him at 23 is not a millennial.
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