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re: 3rd quarter GDP second estimate bumped up from 3.0% to 3.3%

Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:54 am to
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
4987 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:54 am to
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Recovery from what?


Recovery from the anemic 1.5% GDP growth rate during the 8 years of Obama. This country has no shot of paying its bills if we are only growing at 1.5% per year. 3% growth is a must. The math of reducing the deficit is easier.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35878 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:01 am to
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Won't be long until the Dems start talking about how the average person is being left behind in the Reagan I mean Trump recovery. Same exact shite as the 80s.


Bingo, they'll find some outliers and push them to the forefront and tell us the recovery left these unfortunate people behind.

They'll tell us its better for everyone to creep forward in a malaise than for many to jump forward with a few left behind.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:07 am to
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3% growth is a must


Growth above 3% is a sign of an economy heading towards instability. Ideal growth rate for our economy is between 2-3%, a number we’ve hit multiple times under Obama and, fortunately, it looks like we will be between 2-3% for 2017 too.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118623 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Recovery from what?


Poor economic growth from 2008 to 2016.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:08 am to
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Ideal growth rate for our economy is between 2-3%,
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139767 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:09 am to
Volsoyboi is all in still for her.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:10 am to
Sorry you’re ignorant of macroeconomics
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118623 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:10 am to
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Growth above 3% is a sign of an economy heading towards instability.


What is economic instability? Can you provide an example?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:11 am to
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Sorry you’re ignorant of macroeconomics
I've taught macroeconomics. Your "ideal" is just silly.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:13 am to
All thanks to Our President! Greatest Jobs President that God ever created!


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:16 am to
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Sorry you’re ignorant of macroeconomics
Well unlike LSURussian, who seems to be quite knowledgeable in business, finance, and economics, I am pretty ignorant of macroeconomics.

So please explain why 2 to 3 percent growth would be “ideal.” I get 2 to 3 percent may be “practical,” and therefore not a negative necessarily, but I don’t get why it would be “ideal.”
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:17 am to
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Poor economic growth from 2008 to 2016.
Roger that, carry on
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:17 am to
Too high of GDP growth and you’re, at least, looking at serious concerns over inflation. A huge advanced economy like the US’s shouldn’t burn too hot. Steady growth is ideal.

I really dislike Trump but I won’t criticize him when 2017’s GDP growth is in the high 2s. This 3% growth standard is moronic.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69238 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:18 am to
2% is not ideal growth, that is way below historical average

There is no such thing as "ideal" growth. If we could get 10% growth without inflation, that would be a good thing, not a bad thing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118623 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:19 am to
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This 3% growth standard is moronic.


3% is basically what the US has averaged since economists have been tracking GDP. Furthermore, moronic is a poor term used to describe a data point.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69238 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:20 am to
Inflation and GDP growth are not inherently connected, dude. You are assuming the economic growth does not involve increases in supply of goods and resources
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:20 am to
So you taught economics to some high school kids and you think you know more than world renowned economists? I certainly don’t have a PhD in economics but I’ve read plenty of people who do that say that the ideal growth rate for an economy like ours is between 2-3%

I’ll trust them over some random poster on tigerdroppings
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69238 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:22 am to
You are wrong that historical average is 2%

The 40,50s, 80, and 90s were all higher than that

Was there inflation? Nope

Inflation is a monetary phenomenon.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:22 am to
I’m not attacking a data point, I’m attacking an arbitrary standard
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118623 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:23 am to
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So you taught economics to some high school kids and you think you know more than world renowned economists? I certainly don’t have a PhD in economics but I’ve read plenty of people who do that say that the ideal growth rate for an economy like ours is between 2-3%


If the economic policies that you propose can only get you 2-3% then it makes sense that your definition of ideal growth is 2-3%.
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