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269-269 could happen...
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:13 pm
But this is more likely...
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:15 pm to bayoubengals88
Tie means president joe dementia
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:15 pm to bayoubengals88
It's definitely possible. But just know if Trump wins reelection via an electoral tie/congressional votes, this country will completely break apart.
If the majority of democrat supporters in this country can't figure out the electoral college, they sure as hell won't be able to understand and grasp the 269/269 tie breaker process.
If the majority of democrat supporters in this country can't figure out the electoral college, they sure as hell won't be able to understand and grasp the 269/269 tie breaker process.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:16 pm to bayoubengals88
I am actually rooting for a tie, with Roberts siding with the libs for Biden and ACB being the deciding vote for a Trump second presidency. Can't think of anything better to make the libs head's explode.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:16 pm to bayoubengals88
Trump takes one of wisc, mich, Minnesota
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:17 pm to tiger1014
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Tie means president joe dementia
False.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:17 pm to Pelican fan99
Tied election goes to the house not the senate.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:18 pm to bayoubengals88
Trump will get MI and WI.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:18 pm to tiger1014
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269-269 could happen... by tiger1014
Tie means president joe dementia
Nope. Trump wins in the House.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:18 pm to LSU5508
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Tied election goes to the house not the senate.
Do you know the voting process in this situation?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:19 pm to Tiguar
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Trump takes one of wisc, mich, Minnesota
Probably (maybe 2 of them), but Biden is taking Pennsylvania.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:19 pm to tiger1014
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Tie means president joe dementia
trump winning EC by just a few over 270 scares me to, with all the faithless voters last time around.....
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:19 pm to TDsngumbo
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It's definitely possible. But just know if Trump wins reelection via an electoral tie/congressional votes, this country will completely break apart.
It's about time.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:19 pm to KosmoCramer
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It takes 270toWin. If neither candidate gets a majority of the 538 electoral votes, the election for President is decided in the House of Representatives, with each state delegation having one vote. A majority of states (26) is needed to win. Senators would elect the Vice-President, with each Senator having a vote. A majority of Senators (51) is needed to win.
State House delegations can cast their vote for president from among the three candidates receiving the most electoral votes, while Senators are limited to the top two candidates in their vote for Vice-President.
It is important to note that an apparent tie on election night does not mean that there is actually a tie. The Electors meet on December 14, 2020 (the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December) to cast their votes. Only about half the states have laws requiring their Electors to vote for the popular vote winner. It is possible that an Elector could cast his or her vote for another person. We saw that in the 2016 election, when seven* Electors were 'faithless'.
In a 269-269 tie, as long as that rogue vote wasn’t for the other major candidate in the race, this wouldn’t be an issue. Both candidates would still be short of the required 270. However, imagine a scenario where a single Elector in a single state switched their vote to the other candidate in the tie --- the vote would be 270 to 268. While very unlikely, this kind of vote has happened before (most recently in 1968, although the electoral vote that year wasn’t close).
More than likely, the tie election would remain undecided after the Electors voted. The Congress meets in joint session on January 6, 2021^ to count the electoral votes (this count happens whether the election is close or not). If no candidate has reached 270 Electoral Votes, then the House and Senate take over and elect the President and Vice-President, respectively. Note that the newly elected 117th Congress will be sworn in on January 3rd, 2021. It is that new Congress that would take on this responsibility.
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Who would win the presidency in a tie?
In this partisan era, it is a reasonable assumption, at least to start, that the vast majority of members would vote along party lines. That in mind, let's look at who has the majority in each state.
The GOP held a decided 32-17 edge in control of these state congressional delegations prior to the 2018 midterms. With Democratic gains in that election, the Republican edge narrowed to 26-22. In 2019, Michigan Republican Justin Amash became an independent, breaking that state's tie. As a result the current split is 26-23, with one tie (Pennsylvania).
What about after the 2020 House elections? As noted earlier, it is the new House, seated in January, 2021 that would be voting.
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Note that if a majority is not reached in the House vote (e.g., 25-25), that chamber needs to keep at it until the tie is broken. If the deadlock is still in place when the new term starts (noon, ET on Jan. 20), the vice president becomes acting president until such time as the House elects a president
State delegations after 2018 midterms. Important to note, however, that the delegations AFTER the 2020 election will be the ones voting, though it seems safe to bet that it will remain mostly the same.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:20 pm to TDsngumbo
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if Trump wins reelection via an electoral tie/congressional votes, this country will completely break apart
So we'll see what?
- rioting in the cities?
- restaurant patrons in the suburbs having their plates broken?
- arson on businesses?
- celebrities declaring hatred of Trump?
- media egging on the destruction and mayhem
- suburban homeowners being protested/threatened?
- pro athletes cancelling games in protest?
- looting
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:20 pm to tiger1014
Nope. States get one vote EACH. More states are controlled by Rs
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:20 pm to saints5021
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I am actually rooting for a tie, with Roberts siding with the libs for Biden and ACB being the deciding vote for a Trump second presidency.
What?
That is not how it is done.
The House delegates (one per state) will decide. So, Trump wins
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:20 pm to KosmoCramer
Yes House votes as state blocks not individuals but it's the new congress not the current congress.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:20 pm to TDsngumbo
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TDsngumbo
I knew the answer already.
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