re: 2020 election fraud question

Oh look another kraken retard.

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Not how it works dipshit

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Oh really? So in order to determine who won the election, we DON'T produce evidence that one candidate got more votes than the other? Wow. I wonder if anyone else in the country knows this

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I’m not going to read all the replies at this point

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Predictable. Missed the entire point of the question.

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Trump lost, fig!

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Prove it

The fact that, in August 2023, there's an 11 page thread on the 2020 election is too funny.

You people need to do something with your lives other than masturbate to Truth Social.

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He won in a landslide.

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This is delusional. I believe they cheated enough to put him over the top, but they didn't ballot harvest millions of votes. Roughly 80 million people showed up to vote against Trump, and while Biden's done plenty to push them towards Trump he's done nothing but push them away.

He will probably lose. If he wins it won't be any sort of landslide; it will be tight as hell just like the first two times.

How dense are you? You can't even understand your own arguments

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About freaking time

That statement had nothing to do with anything. It doesn't help your case at all

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You have said multiple times that s faked water leak at night is why the poll watchers were sent home. That wasn't true. A real water leak occurred in the morning, but no poll watchers were sent home.

You finally accepted the truth...but then you forgot the truth in your net post.

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What does it mean?
You are obtuse. It means that there was vote counting while observers were not present. No reasonable person would find this acceptable. This seems really difficult for you to understand

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I'M obtuse? We are still talking about the morning water leak. Vote counting was delayed, but the poll watchers were there when vote counting started. You are making a really stupid and incorrect assumption.

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, you said no one told the poll workers to leave. I quoted Georgia election officials contradicting your claim. You are wrong

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Once again, you cannot understand your own resources. The language you quoted said the BALLOT COUNTERS were sent home, not the poll watchers. Your quote from Richard Ballard specifically said the poll watchers went home because they thought vote counting was over for the night. Multiple poll watchers from both parties have stated no one told them to go home.

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Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections, told ABC News that the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. despite earlier intentions to complete

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To quote you: YOU ARE WRONG.

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I never said anything about "in conjunction with" but there definitely were pauses in other states similar to Georgia. It was during those times that Biden received extremely suspicious jumps in votes due to problematic absentee ballots. It's unfortunate you are unable to comprehend that this looks incredibly fraudulent.

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Well, the conversation got a little lost in the weeds. I was originally responding to the people claiming there was some type of coordinated vote count stoppage in every swing state. In the wee hours in the morning. That didn't happen in Georgia. Fulton county stopped counting votes for around 30 minutes before 11pm, but other counties kept counting.

I am not aware of count stoppages in other states, either. I'm aware of vote reporting delays, which caused very large jumps in vote totals at one time. (Cute how you claim this was due to "problematic" absentee ballots).

I don't know what caused the reporting delays, but I do not find it inherently suspicious. Maybe you should do some research and find an answer

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So, no one told them to leave.
Who cares. They left because there was ostensibly no vote counting going on. But we now know that wasn't the case.

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Wait, so you're flip flopping again. So now you agree no one told them to leave even though just a second ago you claimed I was wrong for saying that. At least we agree again, for now.

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Those ballot containers were placed under the tables - in full view of poll watchers
Which decreases the suspicious nature precisely zero.

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You are the one who cannot be reasoned with. You said ballots were pulled out of "shady suitcases" from underneath suitcases. If you are able to watch the full video footage, you would see those are the ballot carriers that hold ballots that have been processed and are ready for counting. The ballot counters put those cases under the tables in full view of poll watchers in preparation to go home.

And you say that does not decrease the alleged "suspicious nature" of those cases at all? You just don't want to acknowledge the truth.

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The nouveau lib gaslighting. "Don't believe what your eyes are seeing."

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But your eyes didn't see it. Your eyes saw one small snippet of a video, and someone told you what you were allegedly seeing. And you blindly believe them because you want to.

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The first hurdle has been cleared in the VoterGA case. We'll see where that goes. We know that the dropboxes and the chain of custody were a problem in potentially more than 100k ballots, well over the margin of victory

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You understand this won't change anything, right? As I posted way up above - and I thought you conceded I was right - that the procedures set up before the election are not fraudulent. They are frustrating, but those were the rules, and no one is going to disenfranchise innocent voters who followed the rules.

So, simultaneous investigations by four government agencies - one hand picked by Trump - all reaching the same conclusion isn't good enough for you? Even the GBI, which has a stellar track record? You will just continue to believe in fraud because of a short video clip you saw

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You can't even acknowledge the obvious problem - ballot counting restarted after the observers left. If you can't acknowledge that, you can't be reasoned with

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No,it's not that big of a problem. Ballot processing, i.e. signature matching, needs to be observed. Ballot counting is preferably observed, but the ballots aren't going anywhere. They can be - and were - recounted if necessary.

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I didn't say you had to trust the media and government, but those are your only sources of information here

Fortunately, you are wrong on this point

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Really? You have another source for this information? I mean, even if you go in and count the ballots yourself you have to rely on the government providing you with the proper raw data.

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Multiply that by 155 and you can expect a large amount of inconsistencies.

No one entity is counting the entire country's votes so, you are being disingenuous

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You not only fail to comprehend the enormity of numbers, you also don't understand statistics

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it does not make it any easier to count those votes

It most certainly does and it all but eliminates fraud. No shady mail in ballots that have a multitude of forensic and logistical problems

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Okay you lost me. On my left, I have a stack of 100,000 ballots from in person voting precincts. On my right, I have a stack of 100,000 absentee ballots that have been verified and are ready for counting. Please explain to me why the stack on the left will be easier to count than the one on the right.

If you think in person voting "all but eliminates" fraud, you really have not been paying attention for the last 200 years. Also, mail in ballots are not inherently "shady". Republicans used to prefer them.

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This is still untrue no matter how many times you repeat it. There can be independent oversight at each counting location. No one location is responsible for the entire country's ballots.

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Well, there isn't such oversight, and even if there were mistakes occur in counting. It is unavoidable. But usually the difference in vote totals is so large it doesn't matter

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The only verified charges of voter fraud I have seen were almost all for Trump

I've already cited the 14 cases won by GOP plaintiffs so you are misinformed.

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LOL. The claim of 14 case victories is based on terrible data. Most of the cases won by GOP Plaintiffs were filed well before November, and could not possibly relate to election day fraud. Of the cases filed after November 3, 2020, none dealt with fraud, but instead related to ballot acceptance procedures

Spreadsheet of cases

Please try to read and understand your sources before misleading everyone.

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I watched every single minute of video pertaining to those cases under the table. They NEVER released the video that showed how they ended up hidden under that table

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Here you go: You tube video with frame by frame analysis of how those boxes got under the table

I've already said this multiple times in this thread, but that incident, and others, were investigated by the Republican SOS office, the GBI, the FBI, the Trump-appointed US Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, and then the Trump-appointed US Attorney for the Southern District. They all reported no evidence of fraud.

The shortened video looks suspicious, especially with Giuliani narrating it, but it does not show fraud.

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The fact that, in August 2023, there's an 11 page thread on the 2020 election is too funny

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The fact that there are people who aren't bothered by what happened and are perpetuating lies is sad.

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You people need to do something with your lives other than masturbate to Truth Social.

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I have never been on that platform. And tell me what I said that's false. And you don't consider the pursuit of justice and trying to prevent losing freedom a worthwhile pursuit?

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Roughly 80 million people showed up to vote against Trump

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This is just absolutely astonishing. 11 pages of people avoiding the question and then this comment is made. Unbelievable

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This is delusional.

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Prove it

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Oh really? So in order to determine who won the election, we DON'T produce evidence that one candidate got more votes than the other? Wow. I wonder if anyone else in the country knows this

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Are there any people in Congress or Senate who claim the election was rigged? I’m guessing maybe MTG and Boebert, but anyone else? I’m pretty Cruz is saying that states illegally amended voting laws but I don’t think he claims those votes were fake but rather invalid because of the process.

For the most part the stolen election crowd has dwindled down to only the heavily medicated.