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Working on an M1 Garand yourself
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:05 am
So looks like CMP is sold out of service grade rifles. Really kicking myself because I was just getting all the info together and getting ready to send in my order within the next week.
I'll have to settle for a Field Grade which seems to be based on reviews and the CMP website a noticeable drop off in looks and performance compared to the Service Grade.
Has anyone worked on Garands before? I'm pretty hand with the AR's but obviously those are built to be easy to work on. It looks like I could order a new stock and barrel for an M1 garand online but would it be a total nightmare to replace those components if I need to? I don't mind putting in the time and effort to shape up a rough performing/looking gun but I want to make sure it isn't something that maybe isn't really doable first.
I'll have to settle for a Field Grade which seems to be based on reviews and the CMP website a noticeable drop off in looks and performance compared to the Service Grade.
Has anyone worked on Garands before? I'm pretty hand with the AR's but obviously those are built to be easy to work on. It looks like I could order a new stock and barrel for an M1 garand online but would it be a total nightmare to replace those components if I need to? I don't mind putting in the time and effort to shape up a rough performing/looking gun but I want to make sure it isn't something that maybe isn't really doable first.
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:38 am to jlovel7
Wait a few weeks at the most. They'll have some back in stock.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:43 am to jlovel7
I'd have a gunsmith that knows Garands do anthing like fitting a new barrel. Restocking, replacing op-rod, etc. isn't difficult though. These aren't rifles you want to be gungho about when working on, they are not forgiving like AR's when it comes to mistakes and you are dealing with a much bigger cartridge. They are fantastic shooters when done right and it's definitely something you want to last.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:10 pm to cdaniel76
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Wait a few weeks at the most. They'll have some back in stock.
I'm just going to order the service grade. Since it's through mail I'll just make them call me and tell me it's out and take it from there. Hopefully I can just get in the que for a service grade then.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:26 pm to jlovel7
I would wait for the service grades to be back in stock if you're doing a mail order. My 30-06 M1 is a field grade, but I hand picked it at the south store after finding one with an original GAW stock in decent shape and a Norwegian (Kongsberg) barrel with 2 TE and 2 ME. The odds of getting something like that on a mail order are small - most of the field grades are not lookers, and most have TE and/or ME of 3+.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:31 pm to jlovel7
Well, stock work is kinda stock work regardless of the rifle. Garands are tricky to bed if you want to do that or if the stock you get is sloppy.
You need to pay somebody to do the barrel etc.
Sounds like you want a shooter and if you do and don't really care about numbers or anything, order a special rack grade. They come with a new barrel and stock and a refinished reciever. If they're out of stock, just wait on them to come back in stock. Nothing about ordering through CMP is fast anyway but their customer service is top notch.
I have a rack special. Took 6 months to get but totally worth it. Its a damn fine looking rifle.
You need to pay somebody to do the barrel etc.
Sounds like you want a shooter and if you do and don't really care about numbers or anything, order a special rack grade. They come with a new barrel and stock and a refinished reciever. If they're out of stock, just wait on them to come back in stock. Nothing about ordering through CMP is fast anyway but their customer service is top notch.
I have a rack special. Took 6 months to get but totally worth it. Its a damn fine looking rifle.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:03 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
So things on their site do come back in stock? This stuff isn’t gone forever?
How do they keep finding M1 Garands
How do they keep finding M1 Garands
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:30 pm to jlovel7
quote:It's crazy but Garands are still being returned by allies to this day. Much of the supply the last decade has been made up of Greek, Danish, and Norwegian returns.
How do they keep finding M1 Garands
Basically after WW2 and Korea we sent our M1s to allies as we transitioned to the M14. Once these countries were done with them years later many of them simply put the M1s in storage. Then over time their ordnance departments eventually come across these stockpiles and say "Oh shite, these are actually US property." Then they ship them back and the CMP goes through them and does their thing.
Government efficiency!
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:44 pm to jlovel7
They are not rocket science, the guns at the CMP are just mismatched parts. We use to buy our limit and then make matching guns out of them. You run into some gems and some junk, but even the crappiest guns they have are worth at least what they are selling them for.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:31 pm to TideCPA
I think there was something like 5.5 million built. That's insane.
Honestly I feel like I got a hell of a steal for $700 all in. Its a damn fine rifle and I think everybody should own one.
Honestly I feel like I got a hell of a steal for $700 all in. Its a damn fine rifle and I think everybody should own one.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Agree, the CMP Garands are one of the best deals in firearms. The secondary market is going to be outrageous once CMP runs out for good (and they will).
I think there was something like 5.5 million built. That's insane.
Honestly I feel like I got a hell of a steal for $700 all in. Its a damn fine rifle and I think everybody should own one.
When crates of Mosins were flowing into the US up until a few years ago you could pick them up for sub-$100. Now that the surplus rifles are gone, basic 91/30s are going for $400. And that's with 37 million of them being manufactured. With only 5.5 million Garands, many of which have been lost on the battlefield or destroyed by allies (rather than returned), we'll be looking at $2,000+ for a service grade rifle IMO.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 8:43 am to TideCPA
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Agree, the CMP Garands are one of the best deals in firearms. The secondary market is going to be outrageous once CMP runs out for good (and they will).
When crates of Mosins were flowing into the US up until a few years ago you could pick them up for sub-$100. Now that the surplus rifles are gone, basic 91/30s are going for $400. And that's with 37 million of them being manufactured. With only 5.5 million Garands, many of which have been lost on the battlefield or destroyed by allies (rather than returned), we'll be looking at $2,000+ for a service grade rifle IMO.
So should I wait for a service grade to come back in stock or take the plunge on a field grade and work on it myself?
Looks like stock blanks can be found got around $150 and new barrels for $200-300
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:21 am to jlovel7
Order what you can get now AND put one in for the one you really want.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:38 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
If it were me and I didn't already have one, I would order the field grade and prepare to replace the stock. You can buy the same ones the CMP puts on their specials directly from them for $157 (complete with all the metal). LINK
I wouldn't buy a new barrel until you've had the chance to shoot the one you get. Even barrels with a bit more muzzle and throat wear can still shoot incredibly well.
I wouldn't buy a new barrel until you've had the chance to shoot the one you get. Even barrels with a bit more muzzle and throat wear can still shoot incredibly well.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 11:12 am
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