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What is the current status on the litigation regarding Catahoula Lake?

Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:38 pm
Have not heard anything in awhile.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:42 pm to
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Have not heard anything in awhile.





Have not heard anything at all, what type of lawsuit?
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12523 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:09 pm to
Check the "Catahoula Lake Conservation Club" Facebook page. There are several people that post there that are "in the know"
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30434 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:36 pm to
only in LA can tidal waters be claimed as private.... and nobody knows who actually owns or people claim as private public bottoms.....

I think the case is on appeal - trying to determine where the state's / jurisdiction ends and public begins
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:06 pm to
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What is the current status on the litigation regarding Catahoula Lake?
The State filed a motion for appeal. The return date is not until August, so there will be no news for quite a while.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12523 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:08 pm to
From what I've been told, which is very little, the land plats actually show land owners property lines up to the river channel
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:23 pm to
BTW, the award against the State was $43,000,000 plus accrued interest of $66,000,000 plus $22,000,000 in attorney fees.$350,000 in expert fees and $90,000 in misc costs.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:42 pm to
who wrote that decision? what was the ultimate decision on the depth of CL? what's the caption so that i can find it?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:51 pm to
James H. Boddie.

Steve Crooks vs State Suit 224262
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:23 pm to
LINK

Summary of the decision.

Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:02 am to
So does this mean landowners own parts of the current lake bed? If so, looks like a huge cluster could follow regarding the guys that hunt out there.

My personal opinion is that this is a crock of shite.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:33 am to
It means they did own it at one time and the state expropriated it, by building the dam, without justly compensating them. So now, the state owes them $1,260 per acre.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:38 am to
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means they did own it at one time and the state expropriated it, by building the dam, without justly compensating them. So now, the state owes them $1,260 per acre.


This sums it up pretty well, the state must pay the landowners the value of the land. The landowners don't own it anymore.

There are also royalty payments the state received for the land that must be paid out to the landowners but the bulk of that prescribed, luckily for the state.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:13 am to
I don't think the decision will stand. Just personal opinion not based on anything really.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:13 am to
I could see it both ways. The value is what I think is off course. When the land was expropriated by building the dam, it wasn't worth $1,260 per acre.

I don't have any hunting interest since I have never hunted there or no anyone who hunts there. As a civil engineer/surveyor, it is an interesting case in riparian rights and LA history.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:46 pm to
There was a ton of oil & Gas produced on that lake. Does prescription still hold up if the land grab was mishandled? Seems like our crafty politicians would have some sort of loophole for things like this.
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6205 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:10 pm to
According to my reading and understanding, the court found an unlawful expropriation. Therefore, the land belongs to the private owners. The monetary award was for their loss of enjoyment of the property, not the loss of ownership. If it stands, this could start WWIII between the "owners" and the hunters!!
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:16 pm to
So that good blind on south end, if I pay the land owner enough it could be mine?
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

The court concluded that the constant interference with the plaintiffs’ natural servitude of drain caused by the dam structure established a continuing tort, preventing the running of prescription.


State argued prescription and that was the court's response.

Not a lawyer, but as I read it, nobody is getting their land back. State must cough up a bunch of money to close the de facto expropriation.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:19 pm to
jenar boy bouts to get paaaaid
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