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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:26 am
Posted by eatboudin
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2005
228 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:26 am
Looking for help from one of you garden gurus.

This is my third year with this small garden. Tomato plants grow to be big, bushy, healthy plants with lots of flowers. 90% of the flowers dry up and fall off without making fruit. Any idea why and how to treat that?
Posted by TigerTerd
Member since Sep 2010
2659 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:28 am to
Used a lot of nitrogen on them?
Posted by eatboudin
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2005
228 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:32 am to
I built a large box garden, and used manure based topsoil to fill it. That was three years ago. So, yes, a lot of nitrogen.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:22 am to
Could be any of several things:

Insufficient light
Too little water
Temperature
Poor pollination
Improper Spacing



This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 9:29 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56201 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:24 am to
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Poor pollination Improper Spacing


I think these two are getting me right now, although I did notice an influx of bees this morning, so maybe things are going to turn around. But I know I planted them too tightly
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:27 am to
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90% of the flowers dry up and fall off without making fruit.


That's a lot.

I'd say 25% of mine do that and I chalk it up to making room for the fruit that did take to grow.

Sounds like poor pollination. In the past I got a thin art style paint brush and lightly touched one flower after another to encourage pollination. It was jalapeno plants, but nonetheless, like 95% of the flowers made a pepper.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

planted them too tightly



I like mine tight and clumped instead of rowed. My theory is they support each other and shade out under growth weeds.

This was from a week or two ago, now there are probably 300 pea to mandarin orange sized green tomatoes in there now.

Posted by Easternrio
Member since May 2014
3755 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:41 am to
Between 10 and 2 when it's less humid you can also lightly shake your plants to help with pollination
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:41 am to


quote:

My theory is they support each other
Stake 'em ya lazy bastid. *wink*

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and shade out under growth weeds.

I mulch with grass clippings.

I would worry about not being able to see tomatoes. I even use scissors to prune mine somewhat so the wind won't push so hard. I only cut laterals and not fruit-producing growth.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:48 am to
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Stake 'em ya lazy bastid.


There are some cages in there...

quote:

I would worry about not being able to see tomatoes.


I'll see them when they start to turn yellow/orange.

Posted by brmach
Member since Aug 2012
769 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

So, yes, a lot of nitrogen.


Could very well be your problem. Nitrogen is great for plant development, not so much for setting fruit. Maybe try a fertilizer with higher phosphorus and potassium numbers.

My second thought would be a pollination problem (i.e. lack of bees). That happens a lot these days.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Maybe try a fertilizer with higher phosphorus and potassium numbers.


If the plants are getting enough direct sunlight, I'd be willing to bet the farm that this is the problem. Find a fertilizer that has a low first number.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Find a fertilizer that has a low first number.


This is what I use, and it's the cheap stuff from walmart... it's 9-12-12.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

My second thought would be a pollination problem (i.e. lack of bees). That happens a lot these days.



I made some sugar water and set a small dish of it on the ground. A few days later I had tons of pollinators flying around. Some people also suggest using flowers as an attractant.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:05 am to
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This is what I use, and it's the cheap stuff from walmart... it's 9-12-12.


You could also just get some super phosphate and muriate of potash if you're concerned about high nitrogen numbers (tomatoes usually like nitrogen, though).
Posted by eatboudin
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2005
228 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:46 am to
Thanks for the input everyone. I will try the P and K treatment and set out to attract some bees.
Posted by Geaux2Hell
BR
Member since Sep 2006
4790 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:04 pm to
I had an issue with the flowers setting fruit last year. Read about how lightly shaking the plants can help. I thought it was complete BS but I swear it works. Also been using a product called Tomato Tone and my plants are loaded with fruit right now
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