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The CMP is about to be very busy, Save your pennies

Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
875 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:33 pm
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/2/6/107-000-repatriated-garands-and-milsurp-1911s-on-cmp-racks/#ixzz56gVhDtGD


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The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) said it has received shipment of nearly 100,000 repatriated M1 Garand rifles to replenish nearly depleted stocks of U.S. military surplus rifles sold the past two decades to eligible American citizens. In addition, the Secretary of the Army recently released approximately 8,000 much-anticipated milsurp M1911/M1911A1 pistols to CMP.

“We’re excited to have the guns,” CMP Chief Operating Officer Mark Johnson said. “We’ve been working on getting them for several years, and it’s the first shipment of guns we’ve received in quite some time.”

Loaners come home

The repatriated M1 Garands?about 86,000 from the Philippines and 13,000 from Turkey?went on loan to those countries following WWII under the Military Assistance Program (MAP). Because the rifles technically belong to the U.S. Army, it was up to that organization, not CMP, to seek repatriation. Under the anti-civil rights Obama administration, repatriation was never on the table; during those years CMP worked quietly with the U.S. Army, preparing to eventually receive the repatriated rifles and milsurp pistols. Last week’s receipt of the firearms is the culmination of long effort while adopting a wait-and-see attitude by CMP.

Today, the semi-automatic Garands with a fixed capacity of eight rounds are obsolete for military purposes, and they now enjoy collector and “collector-shooter” status among American riflemen, especially for those who participate in CMP As-issued John C. Garand competitions. The U.S. Army, having no use for the repatriated rifles, has turned them over to CMP for subsequent sale to eligible individuals. The practice at CMP is to clean, carefully inspect, and test fire every salable firearm to ensure safe and proper operation. Then, a price is set based upon its overall condition, with a few select rifles garnering higher, collector-status prices.

“We’ve already begun on the Turkish rifles,” Johnson said. “They’re already filtering into the system and there are some on the racks for sale now.” Of note to collectors, he said the Turk and Filipino Garands are indistinguishable from any other M1 Garand. “We haven’t seen any kind of markings thus far, nothing to identify what country has had them,” he said.

Pistols, too

The milsurp M1911/M1911A1 pistols will also go to eligible citizens through CMP sales on a lottery basis. CMP posts eligibility requirements for pistol and rifle purchases on its website; those requirements include proof of U.S. citizenship, participation in marksmanship activities and membership in a CMP affiliated club, as well as passing an FBI NICS criminal background check. In the case of the M1911/M1911A1 pistols, buyers must pass two NICS checks, one at CMP and a second at the Federal Firearms License dealer where they pick up the shipped handgun.

Sales of milsurp arms was historically through the U.S. Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) via the NRA. In 1996, Congress closed DCM and chartered the non-profit Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety (now called the CMP). At that time the Army transferred remaining stocks of surplus firearms and ammunition to CMP to sell for income in supporting itself. Late last year, Johnson said CMP expected to sell the last of those remaining milsurp M1 Garands by 2019; this eleventh-hour receipt of the Garands and M1911/M1911A1 pistols is a big financial shot in the arm for CMP.
More to come?

And while the present 107,000 milsurp rifles and pistols are good news for CMP, collectors and competitors, there is more on the horizon. South Korea has approximately 80,000 M1 Garands and about 600,000 M1 Carbines loaned to that country under MAP. South Korea aborted an attempt to sell those loaned firearms to U.S. importers a few years ago. CMP is hopeful that these will also eventually be repatriated and passed on to the American citizen.


I hope they can get them all home and processed before Trump's term/terms are over.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
379 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:05 pm to
I don't know what the price range on the garands will be, but the last time I read about the 1911's they were overpriced pretty significantly.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:09 pm to
Son of a bitch! I just ordered a Service Grade a few weeks ago! If I'd known I would have waited.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:10 pm to
Service Grade (about mid grade) is $795.
Posted by byutgr
Thibodaux
Member since Apr 2005
455 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:52 am to
Just ordered a service grade for $750.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Just ordered a service grade for $750.


Yeah, I was wrong about that price. It was actually $730 when I ordered.

I ordered mine in mid to late January (don't remember exactly when) and it came in this past Tuesday. It like likely would have come much sooner but stupid me forgot to include a copy of my birth certificate in the order packet when I sent it out so. That delayed me a couple weeks, plus I always get delayed on my NICS checks (can't use your Louisiana CCP for a firearm purchased in another state, unfortunately )

See my post about it here if you'd like.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4298 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:56 pm to
I want one. Mainly so I can use the word "clip" and not be wrong.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10568 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:40 pm to
how do i get one? i signed up for the CMP notification email. Is that all i can do now?
Posted by byutgr
Thibodaux
Member since Apr 2005
455 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 1:52 pm to
I just received an email confirmation that they have received my order, along with my customer number and password. Exactly one month from when I mailed it in. I was just about to write it off, and now I am like a kid at Christmas again. My father joined the National Guard at 18 in 1946 and served 8 years, qualified expert with the M1 and always loved that weapon. This is a tribute to him, and I wish that he were alive to hold one again. Now I will start watching YouTube videos on field stripping and cleaning all over again. It will drive my wife crazy
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Now I will start watching YouTube videos on field stripping and cleaning all over again


Brownells makes an excellent 4 part series on disassembly, cleaning, lubing and reassembly. Here's Part 1!

As for the wait. The hardest part is over for you. Once I got the confirmation that they received my order and assigned me a customer number, it was maybe just 1 more week before I got that glorious "Your M1 has been shipped" email. AND IT COMES STRAIGHT TO YOU! FFL transfer not needed!
Posted by byutgr
Thibodaux
Member since Apr 2005
455 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:22 am to
Got mine in yesterday. Service grade with new furniture. Mine is an H&R, not a Springfield, and from the serial number, manufactured between 1955-57, so not a WWII rifle. However, it is in great shape, the bore reading is 1 and the throat is 1+. It will make a great shooter. Very pleased with CMP, and if anyone has any interest in an M1, I highly recommend the program.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:35 pm to
i was reading the order form, do they ship it to your house? How do they get to do that?
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14258 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:55 pm to
yep, fedex. gotta sign for it. They have a special law in place that allows it
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9326 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:12 pm to
Does this mean the price will drop?
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:16 am to
quote:

i was reading the order form, do they ship it to your house? How do they get to do that?


Special provisions in place for the CMP with their rifles. They run the NICS check there and are allowed to ship directly to your home.

I read that the system will be significantly different for the surplus 1911's though. As a buyer you'll be subject to TWO NICS checks. The CMP will run one before even allowing you to order it and then it'll be shipped to your selected FFL where you'll be required to have another check performed to receive the transfer.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16536 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 11:50 am to
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and about 600,000 M1 Carbines


That's what I want, a clean carbine to go with my Garand. That and a nice 1903 are all I have on my wishlist.
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