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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:49 am to the LSUSaint
Pringle is a shallow back lake. As mentioned, it’s going to get nukes every time in cold weather.
As already discussed, the barge and shipping traffic is what will really ratchet this up. Those channels are pretty much the only deep water in some of these bay systems.
As already discussed, the barge and shipping traffic is what will really ratchet this up. Those channels are pretty much the only deep water in some of these bay systems.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:16 pm to Mr Sausage
Guy working in Corpus Christi came back last night, had pic of dead fish along bank 4’ wide in port Aransas. Lots of trout
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:36 am to Capt ST
Saw video today of thousands of sea turtles that were rescued before they could drown and sounds like tens of thousands more sea turtles have died.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:59 pm to MrLSU
My observations after a few days of being on the water and talking other folks that have been as well. Matagorda to Baffin for sure lost a lot of fish, some areas more than others especially POC. Rockport to POC will rebound faster at the end of this year with the re-dredging of Cedar Bayou starting in April. South of Baffin through the land cut, through Mansfield to the Arroyo is devastated. Thousands and thousands of dead trout, reds, and black drum for as far as you want to run, the numbers of dead 6 to 8 pound trout and bigger in the area makes you sick to see. It is going to take a while to recover down there and some kind of changes in regulations as well I am afraid. If the fish didn't get into the ICW or Mansfield Harbor they died, sucks.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:12 pm to TxWadingFool
Limit is down to five, not sure what refulation changes will help.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:52 pm to TxWadingFool
Thanks for the update txwade. Went out in West Matagorda yesterday. We saw a few dead drum and I think at this point we are just waiting for the biologists to quantify how bad it is.
Agree with Kemosabi. Not sure how much more they can do with the limits. Maybe a stricter slot for bigger trout ? Release over 20? I’m new to the Texas fishery so I might be wrong but I think lowering the limits will really hurt the guides and the commercial (hotels, bait shops, etc) side of recreational fishing.
Agree with Kemosabi. Not sure how much more they can do with the limits. Maybe a stricter slot for bigger trout ? Release over 20? I’m new to the Texas fishery so I might be wrong but I think lowering the limits will really hurt the guides and the commercial (hotels, bait shops, etc) side of recreational fishing.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 12:37 pm to voros79
There is going to be some pain felt without a doubt across the board, had a buddy send me a video today from Galveston where most think they escaped the worst. The video showed thousands of dead big fish (not bait fish) still on the bottom in the canals that have yet to float up, biologist I asked about that said they would start to come up today or tomorrow. A more stringent sized slot limit would be a tool they could use in effort to help speed the recovery, I doubt anything is done from Baffin northward but south of there I wouldn't be surprised if something wasn't changed with a 2 or 3 year sunset clause attached to it.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:44 pm to KemoSabe65
quote:
Limit is down to five, not sure what refulation changes will help.
Well changes were made,
Temporary trout regs for Laguna Madre systems:
Upon filing with the Secretary of State with the intended implementation date of April 1st, the action provides for the following:
Geographic area - Laguna Madre (Upper and Lower Laguna Madre bay systems) south of the JFK causeway, including the adjacent beachfronts from Packery Channel to the Rio Grande river
Species – Spotted Seatrout
Bag limit – 3 fish per day
Length restrictions – Slot limit of 17-23” Min. length 17” Max length 23”. No fish over 23” may be retained.
This management action would result in a 27% increase in spawning stock biomass with the purpose of accelerating recovery of the spotted seatrout fishery.
The emergency rule becomes effective once filed with the Sec. of state and is valid for up to 120 days. The emergency rule can be extended 1 time for 60 days, which leads to the possibility of having an emergency rule in place for 180 days. The rule can be pulled down at any time if the need for the emergency rule no longer exists.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:34 pm to TxWadingFool
I applaud Texas for doing the right thing for the resource. Zero way this would happen in Louisiana with our greedy inhabitants.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:15 am to KemoSabe65
The trout population in the Laguna Madre absolutely took a hit from the freeze.
Fished there two days pre freeze and caught about 15 trout over 20 inches and lost one in my net around 27”. Fished three days last week and 2 keeper trout. Fortunately the redfish population seems fine. Also this.
TX fish kill numbers
An estimated minimum of 3.8 million fish were killed on the Texas coast during the Feb. 2021 freeze event. This fish kill consisted of at least 61 species. Non-recreational species contributed to 91% of the total mortality in numbers of fish. This includes species like Silver Perch, Hardhead Catfish, Pinfish, Bay Anchovy and Striped Mullet. While not sought after by most anglers, non-game fish are ecologically important, providing food for larger game fish as well as adding to the overall diversity of Texas Bays. Recreationally important game species accounted for the other 9% of the total. Of that 9%, the dominant species included Spotted Seatrout (48%), Black Drum (31%), Sheepshead (8%), Sand Seatrout (7%), Red Drum (3%), Gray Snapper (2%), and Red Snapper (<1%).
Both the Upper and Lower Laguna Madre bay systems were hit particularly hard by this event. The Lower Laguna Madre had the highest mortality of Spotted Seatrout with an
estimated 104,000 fish killed. That comprised 65% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout killed and when combined with the Upper Laguna Madre, it comprised 89% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout mortality along the Texas coast. Similarly, the Upper Laguna Madre had experienced Black Drum mortality at an estimated 82,600 fish and comprised 78% of the coastwide Black Drum killed.
Fished there two days pre freeze and caught about 15 trout over 20 inches and lost one in my net around 27”. Fished three days last week and 2 keeper trout. Fortunately the redfish population seems fine. Also this.
TX fish kill numbers
An estimated minimum of 3.8 million fish were killed on the Texas coast during the Feb. 2021 freeze event. This fish kill consisted of at least 61 species. Non-recreational species contributed to 91% of the total mortality in numbers of fish. This includes species like Silver Perch, Hardhead Catfish, Pinfish, Bay Anchovy and Striped Mullet. While not sought after by most anglers, non-game fish are ecologically important, providing food for larger game fish as well as adding to the overall diversity of Texas Bays. Recreationally important game species accounted for the other 9% of the total. Of that 9%, the dominant species included Spotted Seatrout (48%), Black Drum (31%), Sheepshead (8%), Sand Seatrout (7%), Red Drum (3%), Gray Snapper (2%), and Red Snapper (<1%).
Both the Upper and Lower Laguna Madre bay systems were hit particularly hard by this event. The Lower Laguna Madre had the highest mortality of Spotted Seatrout with an
estimated 104,000 fish killed. That comprised 65% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout killed and when combined with the Upper Laguna Madre, it comprised 89% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout mortality along the Texas coast. Similarly, the Upper Laguna Madre had experienced Black Drum mortality at an estimated 82,600 fish and comprised 78% of the coastwide Black Drum killed.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:30 am to KemoSabe65
The trout population in the Laguna Madre absolutely took a hit from the freeze.
Fished there two days pre freeze and caught about 15 trout over 20 inches and lost one in my net around 27”. Fished three days last week and 2 keeper trout. Fortunately the redfish population seems fine. Also this.
TX fish kill numbers
An estimated minimum of 3.8 million fish were killed on the Texas coast during the Feb. 2021 freeze event. This fish kill consisted of at least 61 species. Non-recreational species contributed to 91% of the total mortality in numbers of fish. This includes species like Silver Perch, Hardhead Catfish, Pinfish, Bay Anchovy and Striped Mullet. While not sought after by most anglers, non-game fish are ecologically important, providing food for larger game fish as well as adding to the overall diversity of Texas Bays. Recreationally important game species accounted for the other 9% of the total. Of that 9%, the dominant species included Spotted Seatrout (48%), Black Drum (31%), Sheepshead (8%), Sand Seatrout (7%), Red Drum (3%), Gray Snapper (2%), and Red Snapper (<1%).
Both the Upper and Lower Laguna Madre bay systems were hit particularly hard by this event. The Lower Laguna Madre had the highest mortality of Spotted Seatrout with an
estimated 104,000 fish killed. That comprised 65% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout killed and when combined with the Upper Laguna Madre, it comprised 89% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout mortality along the Texas coast. Similarly, the Upper Laguna Madre had experienced Black Drum mortality at an estimated 82,600 fish and comprised 78% of the coastwide Black Drum killed.
Fished there two days pre freeze and caught about 15 trout over 20 inches and lost one in my net around 27”. Fished three days last week and 2 keeper trout. Fortunately the redfish population seems fine. Also this.
TX fish kill numbers
An estimated minimum of 3.8 million fish were killed on the Texas coast during the Feb. 2021 freeze event. This fish kill consisted of at least 61 species. Non-recreational species contributed to 91% of the total mortality in numbers of fish. This includes species like Silver Perch, Hardhead Catfish, Pinfish, Bay Anchovy and Striped Mullet. While not sought after by most anglers, non-game fish are ecologically important, providing food for larger game fish as well as adding to the overall diversity of Texas Bays. Recreationally important game species accounted for the other 9% of the total. Of that 9%, the dominant species included Spotted Seatrout (48%), Black Drum (31%), Sheepshead (8%), Sand Seatrout (7%), Red Drum (3%), Gray Snapper (2%), and Red Snapper (<1%).
Both the Upper and Lower Laguna Madre bay systems were hit particularly hard by this event. The Lower Laguna Madre had the highest mortality of Spotted Seatrout with an
estimated 104,000 fish killed. That comprised 65% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout killed and when combined with the Upper Laguna Madre, it comprised 89% of the total estimated Spotted Seatrout mortality along the Texas coast. Similarly, the Upper Laguna Madre had experienced Black Drum mortality at an estimated 82,600 fish and comprised 78% of the coastwide Black Drum killed.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:30 am to voros79
I still think those numbers are lower than actual, and I really wish they wouldn't have put that out there this soon. That's just going to give a whole bunch of people the mindset that it wasn't as bad as everyone thought, and let's go hammer the fish again. The limit changes will definitely help, but they should have extended it more north to Sargent in my opinion if the kills were as bad as a lot of the pros in that area reported.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:01 am to Marlo Stanfield
I know Caleb Mccumber and others are raising hell about the estimated 533 trout killed in east matagorda when they had gone out after the freeze and seen multitudes more than that with their own eyes. Even from just seeing videos, 533 trout estimated is laughable to put out to the public.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:06 am to Marlo Stanfield
going to my buddy's fish camp on the intercoastal just south of Arroyo City in a couple of weeks. At night we usually see hundreds of small trout under the lights off his pier. He was there this past week and said the numbers wee way down, but the did catch three over 17 inches under the lights. He has guides basically on retainer and they've told him trout were hurt significantly but redfish seem fine. They have been catching a lot of reds.
I will see in two weeks. We don't historically keep a lot of fish (except Snapper when we run offshore) so the reduced limit is not a big deal for us.
I will see in two weeks. We don't historically keep a lot of fish (except Snapper when we run offshore) so the reduced limit is not a big deal for us.
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