Suppressor ? - School Me

I don’t have any suppressors, although I’ve been wanting one for a while, but I like that Q erector for just a 22 suppressor. I don’t have any experience with it, but it looks legit.

I bought a Q Trash Panda from silencer shop last October. Process was painless. Should have done it years ago.

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What's the easiest way to get a suppressor?

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Silencer Shop if you're the least unsure about the process and can't find someone local.

However, I'd check locally, first. It used to be that you were on your own when it came to NFA items. You might have found a local dealer, but you might've had to handle the Form 4 yourself. It's not hard, just a pain in the arse. Get pictures, get thumbprints, mail everything off, do it all again for another can.

However, suppressors have exploded in popularity and now there are other dealers that are set up just like Silencer Shop in that you go to them and they keep your picture, prints, any trust documents (we'll get back to this later), etc. on file and handle all the paperwork for you, but you still get local service with advice, experience, and a showroom that you can visit if you wish. And having that local service with someone you've already got a relationship with is really nice when you buy that second can... and you WILL buy another can.

If you can't find someone somewhat local to you that can handle everything ATF related for you, then definitely the Silencer Shop. Either way, once registered, it should literally be point and click buying, just like any other product except it'll take 6-9 months to get your delivery. Everything else should be behind the scenes and other than you electronically signing the Form 4 they'll email you, you do nothing else.

I don't have any rimfire cans, so I can't help with selecting one.

Now, back to that trust. I STRENOUSLY suggest you find an attorney who practices firearm law and have a gun trust drawn up and have the trust buy the NFA items. If you buy it as an individual, nobody else can ever have legal possession of the item without you being present. Also, when you die and it's registered to you individually, transfer becomes an issue and your heirs are going to have to deal with the ATF to get a transfer after they plant you in the ground. It shouldn't cost anything for that kind of transfer, but it must be done because the whole time they have possession of that NFA item after your death, they possess an improperly registered NFA item and that's no fun if the government shows up and they're there to help.

The trust eliminates these things. First, any trustee of the trust may legally possess the items the trust owns. This means you list your wife and kids as trustees (or whoever else you trust not to sell the trust's inventory out from under you) and they can use them at will. Also, since the trust owns the items, the death of any member of the trust doesn't trigger a transfer event and the trustees of the trust just happily keeps shooting their fun toys in perpetuity. As long as there are trustees alive, the items never need be transferred. Oh, and you can add and remove trustees at will, so the trust can hold the items in perpetuity across generations, as long as the paperwork is kept up. And the gun loving attorneys who draw these things up typically give you all the forms you need to do these things with the cost of the original documents. You just print out a copy of the form you need and go sign it in front of a notary and you're done. Easy Peasy.

As others have stated silencer shop is the only way to go. That's how I got mine. It's truly one of the best investment I've made for firearms. I want a rimfire as mine is a 30 cal. Just make sure it's a serviceable suppressor for rimfire.

Is it really that easy Peezy? I was under the understanding that all trustees had to have their fingerprints taken and passport photos taken and submit to background checks before becoming an eligible trustee. Kind of sounds like a pain in the arse to me so I just put it under my name. Granted I am the only one that can be in possession of said suppressors but if I die I don’t believe the process of getting it then transferred to my heirs is that difficult.

I have a trust and I am the only trustee, I'll keep it this way until my kids are old enough to go shooting without me.

That way when they are older, I have an easy & legal means to allow them to posses my NFA items without me being present. Adding trustees is a fairly simple process.

No one I know has 1 suppressor. Once you get one you will want more and more. I am at 5 now and considering another 22. It's addictive. SBRs too.

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Is it really that easy Peezy? I was under the understanding that all trustees had to have their fingerprints taken and passport photos taken and submit to background checks before becoming an eligible trustee. Kind of sounds like a pain in the arse to me so I just put it under my name.

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I bought my first suppressor 5 years ago, a Spectre II for rimfires. I really like it. I set up a trust to buy the Spectre. At that time, those in the trust were not required to have a background check, photo or fingerprints. Nov '20 I decided to get a 30 caliber suppressor (Silencerco Harvester) to run on other guns. Apparently the laws changed during the Obama administration. The same dealer now suggested I buy the new suppressor individually instead of through the trust. He said if I used the trust to buy the new suppressor, the new laws would require everyone on the trust to have finger prints, etc. He said the disposition of the suppressor on the trust could be handled by a legal statement attached to my will. I bought the new suppressor individually. Completing all the paperwork was much faster and easier this way than setting up trust. It took <10 min to complete the process, including digital prints and submission of the digital application, at the kiosk in his store. He helped w/ all the applications. I approved the application by email a few weeks later. I'd suggest finding a local dealer to run you through the process w/ the aid of a kiosk. According to what he said, the trust process has become much more difficult than is used to be.

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Is it really that easy Peezy? I was under the understanding that all trustees had to have their fingerprints taken and passport photos taken and submit to background checks before becoming an eligible trustee. Kind of sounds like a pain in the arse to me so I just put it under my name. Granted I am the only one that can be in possession of said suppressors but if I die I don’t believe the process of getting it then transferred to my heirs is that difficult.

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I believe that trustees only have to have all of that if you wish to transfer an NFA item to the trust while they're trustees. When the trust requests a transfer, all current trustees must be listed as a responsible person (or whatever the language is on the Form 4) and have to have all of that crap done before the ATF will approve transfer of new NFA items to the trust.

However, you can add and remove trustees of the trust at any point. When added to the trust, they have access to all property that the trust already owns with the caveat that any trustees of the trust must be legally able to possess the can. If you add a 15 year old felon as a trustee, don't be surprised when the government knocks the trust's peepee into the dirt. If you add your 35 year old wife who's never even had a speeding ticket, no worries.

To the best of my knowledge, you do not have to send in anything when someone is added to the trust, only when the trust wishes to purchase a new item.

Also, it isn't that the process to transfer upon death is difficult. It's the idea that when you die, somebody will possess an NFA item that isn't registered to them until the ATF decides to process that Form 5 to transfer after death. It's unlikely (but getting less and less improbable every day right now) that they'll get in a bind with a federal gun charge, but who knows what unscrupulous cops and prosecutors may do.