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Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:10 pm to
I heard rattlesnakes have evolved to stop rattling because it lets the hogs know where they are. Seems like a quick evolution.

Is it that some percentage of rattlers have always been rattle-less and now they are most of the ones living long enough to breed?
Posted by greenbean
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

I heard rattlesnakes have evolved to stop rattling because it lets the hogs know where they are. Seems like a quick evolution.

Is it that some percentage of rattlers have always been rattle-less and now they are most of the ones living long enough to breed?




I've read where snake "experts" had debunked that theory, but who knows?
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:48 pm to
Where dis shed at?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Seems like a quick evolution

Coincidence...evolution takes waaayyy longer.
Posted by meltingman
Member since Jun 2017
70 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:37 am to
West Tennessee, Decatur County.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7096 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:10 am to
That’s catchin’ size right there, baw.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I heard rattlesnakes have evolved to stop rattling because it lets the hogs know where they are. Seems like a quick evolution.

Is it that some percentage of rattlers have always been rattle-less and now they are most of the ones living long enough to breed?


A pig's excellent sense of smell, stronger than a blood hound, and a snake's inherent muskiness, makes me think this is bogus. The pig knows where the snake is from 100 yards away.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:40 am to
quote:

A pig's excellent sense of smell, stronger than a blood hound, and a snake's inherent muskiness, makes me think this is bogus. The pig knows where the snake is from 100 yards away.

The first bow club I ever joined was called Cottonwood. After my first tour of the place, I called it Cottonmouth. Two seasons later, we got hogs for the first time. I never saw another snake.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:16 pm to


Criminally underrated movie.

You don't want none of this, Dewey.

-- sorry for hijacking your mutilated snake thread.
Posted by banone74
Member since Oct 2006
1120 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 5:55 am to
I don’t know man, I don’t want to get a hangover
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6740 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:27 am to
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Rattlesnake ID in the southeast is pretty simple. There's only three.

Diamond pattern on the back is a Diamond Back.

Spots/Blotches is Pygmy.

Charlie Brown T-Shirt is Timber/Canebrake.


For me, and I hope someone will say I am wrong if I am, I have always looked for the orange stripe down the center for a canebreak.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1200 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:41 pm to
I’m sure it’s a regional thing. Years ago in the dismal swamp in North Carolina we came across a timber rattler that was very dark colored, almost black. In Louisiana the timber rattler/ canebrake is exactly like the OP’s example. That’s all I see around here.

Also called velvet tails for that last six inches or so of black tail. Once while walking along the edge of the yard that was the only think I saw, the black tail. The rest of him was camouflaged perfectly in the grass and leaves.

This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 2:47 pm
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