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Shooting a doe this late
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:44 am
Does anyone have a no doe rule this late because they may be pregnant?
My wife's dad has a 40 acre piece of property in Washington parish that I've been hunting for about 8 years now. We don't see or kill a lot but its a nice piece to go get a doe and maybe a buck each year. I've developed it the best I can over the years and now we consistently see a few does and a few bucks.
A few weeks ago my wife's bother who never hunted before starts showing up trying to get a deer since we have been seeing them. That's all good however he will shoot anything that comes out. I'm concerned he will hurt what small herd we have (we used to see 1-3 deer a year now we consistently see 2-5 a hunt if we keep the pressure off). Is this something to be concerned about or is it in my head?
ETA - We have already killed 2 does out of the 5 doe herd that we would see every weekend. Unless new does are pushed in by bucks the ones that are left are too young to be shot.
Also I killed a nice buck (bigger than I'd kill on this 40ac) on another lease so i don't need any more but if I don't go hunt this guy will go and it's open season for him.
My wife's dad has a 40 acre piece of property in Washington parish that I've been hunting for about 8 years now. We don't see or kill a lot but its a nice piece to go get a doe and maybe a buck each year. I've developed it the best I can over the years and now we consistently see a few does and a few bucks.
A few weeks ago my wife's bother who never hunted before starts showing up trying to get a deer since we have been seeing them. That's all good however he will shoot anything that comes out. I'm concerned he will hurt what small herd we have (we used to see 1-3 deer a year now we consistently see 2-5 a hunt if we keep the pressure off). Is this something to be concerned about or is it in my head?
ETA - We have already killed 2 does out of the 5 doe herd that we would see every weekend. Unless new does are pushed in by bucks the ones that are left are too young to be shot.
Also I killed a nice buck (bigger than I'd kill on this 40ac) on another lease so i don't need any more but if I don't go hunt this guy will go and it's open season for him.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:48 am to SeaPickle
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Does anyone have a no doe rule this late because they may be pregnant?
What's the difference if you do it now versus in October? She's not alive to have a fawn either way.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:48 am to SeaPickle
Our club only allows one doe in january if you haven’t killed a buck yet. The rut is normally in early december in my area. I let my wife take my doe this past weekend and it was still full of milk.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:48 am to SeaPickle
My desperate arse will be shooting a doe this weekend more than likely
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:50 am to SeaPickle
Your thinking is a bit flawed. Whether you shoot a doe early in the season or late, you're still killing what would become impregnate doe in the spring. Only difference in shooting one late vs early is that some buck will get to have sex with the doe shot late in the season.
But you definitely don't want to pressure 40ac of land.
But you definitely don't want to pressure 40ac of land.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:53 am to SeaPickle
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Is this something to be concerned about or is it in my head?
Shooting a doe now is no different than shooting a doe before she's bred. Either way, you are removing a breeding animal from the population, and losing any offspring she could have.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:53 am to Chuker
Let me clarify - we have already killed 2 does out of the 5 doe herd that we would see every weekend. Unless new does are pushed in by bucks the ones that are left are too young to be shot.
Also I killed a nice buck (bigger than I'd kill on this 40ac) on another lease so i don't need any more but if I don't go hunt this guy will go and it's open season for him.
Also I killed a nice buck (bigger than I'd kill on this 40ac) on another lease so i don't need any more but if I don't go hunt this guy will go and it's open season for him.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:54 am to tenfoe
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What's the difference if you do it now versus in October? She's not alive to have a fawn either way.
I always laugh when the other falconers tell me they stopped hunting because the rabbits are pregnant. I'm over here like, "All the ones you killed last month would have been pregnant too." If you kill the animal, it's not going to reproduce, no matter when you killed it.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:57 am to Teague
If i had not taken 2 already I wouldn't care as much. I don't want him taking "3" by killing one after we already shot 2.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:03 pm to SeaPickle
A doe pregnant at this time is having out of season sex. Thats as bad human wise as at of wedlock.
Terminate
Terminate
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:05 pm to SeaPickle
Well yeah then taking too many deer off that small of a piece isn't going to help the population any. But honestly yall seeing more deer the past few years probably has more to do with the neighboring lands than what you've done on the 40.
Going to be hard to ask the son not to hunt his father's land. Not a great situation for you.
Going to be hard to ask the son not to hunt his father's land. Not a great situation for you.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:32 pm to SeaPickle
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...he will shoot anything that comes out. I'm concerned he will hurt what small herd we have (we used to see 1-3 deer a year now we consistently see 2-5 a hunt if we keep the pressure off). Is this something to be concerned about or is it in my head?
Your main concern need not be at what point in the season does are harvested, but coming to an understanding on what type of deer (what type of buck and does) and how many deer (both bucks and does) are going to be harvested from a small parcel of land. You're both adults (I hope so) so y'all need to sit down, have an adult discussion and come to a common understanding before next year's deer season
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:34 pm to tenfoe
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What's the difference if you do it now versus in October?
because if they are preg now they not having a baby in october for starters
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:39 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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coming to an understanding on what type of deer (what type of buck and does) and how many deer (both bucks and does) are going to be harvested from a small parcel of land. You're both adults (I hope so) so y'all need to sit down, have an adult discussion and come to a common understanding before next year's deer season
yes we are but im the only "hunter". Hes around 50yrs old and has never killed a deer. Since we are seeing deer his dad (my FIL) pumped him up to go get one, anyone. My FIL is brown its down.
Last year and earlier this year i talked to them both about what we should do management wise to preserve the herd. Its not a big buck place so i dont care if he shoots a 4pt even if i wouldn't. Its more about the number of deer taken per year. If i hadnt killed any yet then i wouldnt have an issue. My issue is he shows up now wanting to kill a deer.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:44 pm to SeaPickle
It's 40 acres. You don't have a herd. You have some deer that hang out in your place occasionally
You don't own the land, you are a guest. It sucks, but it is what it is. Don't sweat it over a deer
You don't own the land, you are a guest. It sucks, but it is what it is. Don't sweat it over a deer
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:46 pm to Chuker
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Going to be hard to ask the son not to hunt his father's land. Not a great situation for you.
This is where im stuck. i can ask him not to shot this or that but its not my final say so. It sucks because he wasnt here building stands, plots or fixing the camp years ago all while sitting all season to see 1 or 2 does.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:50 pm to Ron Cheramie
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You don't have a herd
Hey it makes me feel better
technically there is 160ish acres of family land but only the 40 is for my FIL quote:
Don't sweat it over a deer
I get what you are saying. Im not worked up over it but i dont want him coming in and depleting what my wife and i spent time building. We now have a place to go, get away, hunt and it pay off.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:53 pm to SeaPickle
It sucks. Maybe he will come make a hunt and won't see anything and never come back
Seems every piece of family property has issues like this
Seems every piece of family property has issues like this
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:54 pm to SeaPickle
Sad that you don’t want BIL to kill his first deer.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:00 pm to Ron Cheramie
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It sucks. Maybe he will come make a hunt and won't see anything and never come back
He saw one Saturday but it was running so he couldn't shoot. Im betting a buck was chasing it and it never came out through the plot. He has hunted a time or two this year and last but never this late in the season when the action heats up
quote:Its not even really a problem. Its just as much mine as his. Im only concerned about him wanting to shoot one NOW when the rut is on and we have already killed 2
Seems every piece of family property has issues like this
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 1:03 pm
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