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re: Reloading Costs for a Beginner

Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:47 pm to
Me? If so yes that is a total investment.

dont forget the small stuff:
case gauges 12.95
powder 17-23.00 per pound
powder scale 30.00
medium and case cleaner 70.00

bullet storage is my issue now I have all my rounds stuffed in pasta jars and protein shake containers, I bought a bunch of cases for this today.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:50 pm to
Your prices exclude any brass/bullet costs as well. Also, how difficult is it for a beginner to "stretch" once used brass?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:52 pm to
im not a naysayer you can do what you please however I feel a .223 is not a round a beginner loader should try without experience. Very easy to blow a gun up with that round should you double charge it and bye bye AR after that.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:53 pm to
once used I typically go 3 to 4 cycles before I toss it, but I only shoot straight wall cases which do not need much trimming, you will have to trim the .223 every time maybe.

I know CAS that go 20 to 45 times in brass cycles
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:56 pm to
This is starting to sound fairly complicated. If I bought a bunch if the brass for cheap enough could I flip it?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:56 pm to
Its hard to calculate the small things , like loading manuals, more brass or lead y9ou want, cleaning stuff, work bench stuff, etc

once you get the basics its like cooking, get some lead have primers powder brass at home = new bullets.

for rifle rounds I do sugest you get a single stage which is a little cheaper.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:58 pm to
What I like about reloading and what others I know do is we all like the process, doing the research, looking for places to get free lead to melt etc.

If you just want the cash, sell it on craigslist

what do you have exactly loaders are hard up for 223 it will sell fast imo
once you load it you cant sell it i would never sell or trade brass I loaded,.
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:58 pm to
Reloading 223/5.56 is generally a pain in the arse. I try to do it in batches. The biggest pain is the sorting and trimming. Once all that is done, it can be reloaded at about .10 on the dollar.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:58 pm to
That's the thing - I can get all the brass and bullets I want for approximately 20 cents per brass/bullet combo. I was curious if it paid to reload in that instance or should I start with something simpler, meaning rimfire stuff?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:00 pm to
start with a pistol round straight wall. like .45 acp

if you can get it that cheap you can sell it for profit for sure on CL

can you get .44 mag and .45 acp?
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:01 pm to
What you mean "stretch on e used brass?"
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:02 pm to
It's not possible to reload rimfire, start with a straight wall pistol round preferably a low pressure one.

Reloading rifle really isn't for a beginner, a lot can go wrong and the results can be really bad.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:02 pm to
example:
.223
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:12 pm to
Supposedly it's high quality military grade brass which means it will have a crimped primer pocket and will have to be "swaged" before I could use it? I'm obviously unfamiliar with all the terms, but in this environment is it worth the dough?
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:19 pm to
Probably not. Unless you are willing to invest a lot of time and money.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

it will have a crimped primer pocket and will have to be "swaged" before I could use it?
I believe so but the movement should also deprime the case
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

I believe so but the movement should also deprime the case


Not necessarily, higher end presses like the dillon 1050 can swag primer pockets but usually you have to deprime the case first then use a swaging tool to remove the primer crimp.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 9:50 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22826 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:57 pm to
did you watch that link?
I know I guy who shoots .223 for competition he swags everything , even his wife!
Posted by Judge Smails
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Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:22 pm to
Just watched it -very informative. Looks difficult for a newbie though.
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