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Rebuilding Camp- Metal Shed/Camp ( 1 Year Update in OP)
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:15 am
Ida destroyed our family marsh camp in Cocodrie and I am exploring all of my options on rebuild. I am laid up for several weeks due to knee surgery so I have plenty time to research and BS on the internet before we actually get started.
I have 2 Options.
Option 1: find some land that I can buy/lease that we would be able to drive to by car and rebuild there. Everyone is getting older an this would be more convenient and would be able to pay someone to build some of it. I am hoping a few people give up on their destroyed camp and sell. So my first question is who/where do I look for these deals coming up?
Other option is to rebuild on the marsh island. The roof flew off and 75 % of the walls fell. so the building is a total lost. The deck/floor/ piles/ plumbing, is in need of minor repairs.
On Both camp options, we would use a metal shed building. These are the square tubing style trust buildings. These buildings are easy to build and go up fast compared to wood.
So the questions i have are:
Good contacts for Land for sale or lease in cococdrie/Chauvin?
Anyone have any experience with this or know anyone who has used a metal building as a camp? I'm looking at a 22' x 40' with a 170mph wind rating from Millennium buildings.
Also, does anyone have any experience cooling a metal shed? I see they come with "double Bubble" insulation. Is that enough to insulate for a/c? I hear spray foam is the best, but this a marsh camp, so spray foam may not be an option unless i get a DYI kit. we were running around 28,000 btu's in window units. (There was no isulation in the camp) Would that be enough with just the Double Bubble insulation?
Thanks for your help. Here are some before and after Pictures for reference.
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Here is a one year update on the progress we have made on the camp rebuild.
We have:
*rebuilt the generator shed
*demoed the old camp down to the floor
*replaced 10 piles
*replaced several sills and floor joist.
*Leveled the camp floor
*trimmed the edges of the camp to ensure good wood for walls to attach to
*Framed and closed in Versatube 150mph rated 20'x36' building
* installed A/C's
* Framed in Bathroom
We still have a pretty long way to go, but its nice to be able to work mostly in the A/C now.
I have 2 Options.
Option 1: find some land that I can buy/lease that we would be able to drive to by car and rebuild there. Everyone is getting older an this would be more convenient and would be able to pay someone to build some of it. I am hoping a few people give up on their destroyed camp and sell. So my first question is who/where do I look for these deals coming up?
Other option is to rebuild on the marsh island. The roof flew off and 75 % of the walls fell. so the building is a total lost. The deck/floor/ piles/ plumbing, is in need of minor repairs.
On Both camp options, we would use a metal shed building. These are the square tubing style trust buildings. These buildings are easy to build and go up fast compared to wood.
So the questions i have are:
Good contacts for Land for sale or lease in cococdrie/Chauvin?
Anyone have any experience with this or know anyone who has used a metal building as a camp? I'm looking at a 22' x 40' with a 170mph wind rating from Millennium buildings.
Also, does anyone have any experience cooling a metal shed? I see they come with "double Bubble" insulation. Is that enough to insulate for a/c? I hear spray foam is the best, but this a marsh camp, so spray foam may not be an option unless i get a DYI kit. we were running around 28,000 btu's in window units. (There was no isulation in the camp) Would that be enough with just the Double Bubble insulation?
Thanks for your help. Here are some before and after Pictures for reference.
----------------------------------------------------
Here is a one year update on the progress we have made on the camp rebuild.
We have:
*rebuilt the generator shed
*demoed the old camp down to the floor
*replaced 10 piles
*replaced several sills and floor joist.
*Leveled the camp floor
*trimmed the edges of the camp to ensure good wood for walls to attach to
*Framed and closed in Versatube 150mph rated 20'x36' building
* installed A/C's
* Framed in Bathroom
We still have a pretty long way to go, but its nice to be able to work mostly in the A/C now.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 11:08 am
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:27 am to Elusiveporpi
The bubble insulation may not be enough, but it would be easy to add batt insulation in the walls and roof, but just haul a bunch of bags of the pink stuff with you and tape it in before you put your interior walls/ceiling up. I'm sure there will be plenty of for sale signs pop up on camps within the next year after they get their insurance money. Just keep checking Louisiana Sportsman classifieds, Facebook Marketplace, and looking for signs on the property as you drive around the area.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:28 am to Elusiveporpi
Sorry about your camp man, ours caught some damage too. When I was looking around Dularge a few years ago, I found a few camps for sale posted at Falgoust Marina and just ask the locals that worked there... found several that didnt even have for sale signs up yet
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:35 am to Elusiveporpi
Our camp in GI (really Cheniere) got destroyed and we are trying to figure out the best/most cost effective rebuild method. Didn't really consider a metal building but now I am. Thanks and sorry about the camp, I feel your pain.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:43 am to Elusiveporpi
2 suggestions. First, just drive around in Cocodrie and look. Camps will be posted for sale shortly, or at least the land will. You can always make friends with the bartenders if the bars didnt get destroyed. They'll know what owners are thinking of selling, and you may be able to buy before it hits the market. 2nd is looking at the satellite damage, it seems most camps that were South of the locks actually faired better.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:45 am to Elusiveporpi
Terrebonne Assessor mapping website page will show you landowners. There are lots of cheap long term leases down there.
Also I have seen facebook marketplace listing camps pre-storm.
Also I have seen facebook marketplace listing camps pre-storm.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:46 am to TunaTime
quote:
Our camp in GI (really Cheniere) got destroyed and we are trying to figure out the best/most cost effective rebuild method. Didn't really consider a metal building but now I am. Thanks and sorry about the camp, I feel your pain.
Sorry to hear as well. I think metal is the most cost effective for sure. I've gotten several quote back from metal shop builders already. For 22x40 and 170 mph rating- we are looking at 12-13k and that includes labor(for an on ground build, not sure what elevated build would be. Didnt ask as i'm am only getting ball park estimates)
Good ideas on finding land. Apricate all the advice guys.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:20 am to Elusiveporpi
pretty sure right now you will be able to find some good camps without much damage that people are just giving up on and moving out of state
short of that, option 1 is what i would do and a land based camp accessible by road is easier to repair and maintain as well as give you better living conditions while there
short of that, option 1 is what i would do and a land based camp accessible by road is easier to repair and maintain as well as give you better living conditions while there
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:00 pm to keakar
Anyone have a reputable metal roof company they would recommend?
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:24 pm to Elusiveporpi
having built one camp in Venice and one in East Pointe a la Hache, i will tell you that metal is the way to go.
I will add one more thing. If you are building up in the air, if there is any way to achieve this, be sure that the base posts reach all of the way to the base of the roof.
I got this from the engineer that stamped the plans (wind rating) for the newest condos built a few years back in Cypress Cove.
No matter what you decide, good luck!
I will add one more thing. If you are building up in the air, if there is any way to achieve this, be sure that the base posts reach all of the way to the base of the roof.
I got this from the engineer that stamped the plans (wind rating) for the newest condos built a few years back in Cypress Cove.
No matter what you decide, good luck!
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:26 pm to Elusiveporpi
Not sure of the manufacturer but I've looked at these elevated metal building camps before in Dularge. You may want to try and get some info on them. Looks like they sustained minimal if any damage at all.
They are the 3 blue roofs and 3 red roofs.
LINK
They are the 3 blue roofs and 3 red roofs.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:29 pm to Elusiveporpi
quote:
Elusiveporpi
looks like God's country there...rebuild the pipe framed shed on that platform which looks in pretty good shape...
can totally understand making it easier to get to by road...
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:32 pm to Elusiveporpi
Damn those pics make me sad. Spent Saturday at Dularge helping my brother clean up his camp. Best of luck to you. I’ve seen some camps made out of conex buildings. Ever thought of something like that?
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:49 pm to Elusiveporpi
Just commenting to save this post - we also lost the family camp in cocodrie. Just a few pilings still standing
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:11 am to lsufishnhunt
quote:
Just commenting to save this post - we also lost the family camp in cocodrie. Just a few pilings still standing
sorry to here as well. I still havent had a change to make it
Since so many have lost camps I may do a "Re-build" thread. We aren't OT rich so its going to be a budget build. Maybe it will give others ideas on what they can do, and the OB can offer up any suggestions if we hit a road block.
Gonna have to cash in all my " remember how we stayed at my camp all these years, now I need a favor with demo, rebuild, etc. "
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:15 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Damn those pics make me sad. Spent Saturday at Dularge helping my brother clean up his camp. Best of luck to you. I’ve seen some camps made out of conex buildings. Ever thought of something like that?
If i were to get a piece of land i could drive to, i would be all for this. I already priced them out and everything. I would have 2 40' boxes, send them to my dads house. Prebuild the boxes at his house, then ship them to Coco, then rent a crane to put them on the piles.
its about 10k for 1 connex boxs or 12k for a metal building, so the cost is a wash, but i believe the connexs would be stronger. Some issues i see with it is the roof rotting. would have to build a roof on the roof.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:38 am to Elusiveporpi
Build to the manufacturer's spec and you should be fine. That said they are probably going to spec the foundation and will not guarantee the wind load without the foundation specs. None of my metal buildings built to specs had any issue. (we started using spray in foam for insulation---it fills cracks and is very good--a little more expensive but superior IMHO.)
My camp in Dulac is not metal but has a metal roof screwed into decking. I saw some metal roofs down there that was was simply screwed into boards that came off.
My camp in Dulac is not metal but has a metal roof screwed into decking. I saw some metal roofs down there that was was simply screwed into boards that came off.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:38 pm to Elusiveporpi
Man I am really sorry to hear about yalls camp. I would lose my mind if something happened to ours. Three generations here and the next door neighbor is the same way. One of my best friends married my neighbor's daughter. We've all been together a long time and this is home.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:54 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
we started using spray in foam for insulation-
Not to hijack but how does that handle with moisture? Im having to completely gut my camp in GI, all exterior walls got wet and was curious how this would compare to reg rolled insulation.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:39 pm to sonoma8
If you get closed cell foam sprayed in, it will not absorb moisture. I am also hearing that it adds a decent amount of strength to the building as well.
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