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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
appreciate the update.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
Approximately how big are you going?

If you stated, I didn’t see.
Looks great btw


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
Why don’t you put the wood pile in the Lake for structure? Fish will love it and it will make the Lake a lot more fun to fish.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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Approximately how big are you going?


Not sure until it's finished, but I'm guessing 2 acres m/l.


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Clyde Tipton
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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Why don’t you put the wood pile in the Lake for structure? Fish will love it and it will make the Lake a lot more fun to fish.



We talked about it over the weekend. I think we are going to stock it with Chiquapin/Red ear shell crackers, channel cat and or blue cat.


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Jack Daniel
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
That one cow is like, “da fuq going on over here?”


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That one cow is like, “da fuq going on over here?”




I’m glad she was standing there as it gives it perspective. Seeing it it person, the pics don’t do it justice with respect to size. I figure I was standing just past half way to the tie in point of the levee behind me. She’s over 100 yards away. A football field is very close to an acre thus the rough calculation of a 2 acre pond. The levee is long. The old pond only captured run off from one finger down the hill. When the levee is complete it will capture run off from two additional fingers based on the layout of the topography. In fact, that was the impudence to build the pond. The two additional fingers were cutting ditches through those woods behind the old pond’s levee.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
Lookin good baw. Any particular reason yall want just shellcrackers and not bluegill too?


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Just to reiterate, if you stock bream and catfish at the same time, the catfish will eat every single one of the bream, and then the catfish will starve to death. Let the bream mature and reproduce for a while before putting in catfish, or bass. But especially catfish.

My friend's parents did something almost identical to what you are doing. They stocked simultaeneously. They ended up in a situation where they had to put in fish pens to restock the bluegill, so they could grow big enough to not be decimated. But within a month the catfish ripped apart the fish pens and ate every one of them. They begged us to come fish any time we wanted with the understanding we keep and kill 100% of the catfish we catch.


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deeprig9
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
What's your runoff situation on that land? Fertilizer, pesticide, chickenshit, or just a few cow patties?


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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Any particular reason yall want just shellcrackers and not bluegill too?


I prefer eating chinquapin rather than blue gills, but we may stock some blue gills as well. We have to get it finished and filled up so I'm guessing it will be a while until we are ready to stock.


Clyde Tipton
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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Just to reiterate, if you stock bream and catfish at the same time, the catfish will eat every single one of the bream, and then the catfish will starve to death. Let the bream mature and reproduce for a while before putting in catfish, or bass. But especially catfish.


For sure. I left of fat head minnows as well. That will be the first thing we stock. Then bream, then catfish the following year most likely.

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What's your runoff situation on that land? Fertilizer, pesticide, chickenshit, or just a few cow patties?



Just cow patties mainly with a little fertilizer. We fertilize a neighboring hay field that doesn't drain into this pond every 3 years and throw what little fertilizer that is left on this field.
This post was edited on 8/6 at 1:14 pm


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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I prefer eating chinquapin rather than blue gills, but we may stock some blue gills as well. We have to get it finished and filled up so I'm guessing it will be a while until we are ready to stock.




I hear ya, still plenty of time. Go look on pondboss and they'll have more than you will want to read on stocking. I'm a fan of red ears and we are starting to pull some nice ones out of our pond but they won't make for a long term foodsource for catfish. Same goes for fathead minnows.


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Go look on pondboss


I've been lurking there since we agreed to actually do this a couple of months ago.

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I'm a fan of red ears and we are starting to pull some nice ones out of our pond but they won't make for a long term foodsource for catfish. Same goes for fathead minnows.


I'm trying to determine the right food chain to introduce at the right times.

I appreciate everyone's suggestions. I know I don't know nearly enough, so any help or ideas are great. Keep them coming!


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
In short, fatheads are slow and stupid and don't spawn fast or enough. They're the cover crop of stocking. They'll be gone within a month of the first predator getting big enough to swallow them. The reason hatcheries carry them is because they're great at putting weight on bass fingerlings after initial stocking.

Red ears are kinda neutral, they are hardy and will make due without being pampered but they only spawn once a year and earlier than bluegill, which means they get the bass's undivided attention in early spring. I don't think I've ever caught or seen one that was born in our pond. I believe we're just growing them out and when they're gone they're gone. When I hit the lottery one day I'll have a pond just for trophy red ear.

Bluegill are like rabbits. As long as it's not scorching hot they will spawn once a month from april to sept and will keep the pond fed. They're probably your best chance of keeping the catfish from mowing the whole place down. Give them lots of bushy cover to hide in and gravel beds in 2-4' water so they can keep the love flowing.


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Alleman
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
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My mom wants to do bream and catfish. She's basically a dooms day prepper and is looking at it as a future food source if necessary.

You have a cattle ranch and she's wondering where she'll find food when the feces hits the fan?

Then again, maybe she's a prepper who wants variety in her menu during the zombie apocalypse.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
Can't eat cattle during lent Baw.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
I wouldn't count on cattle lasting long if all your neighbors are hungry. At least with fish a person would have so spend some time fishing and couldn't just slip in and pop a cow and leave with a leg 10 min later.


Clyde Tipton
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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
Update Day 5: Half way home

Our budget bought us 10 days operating time.

He has really only worked 4 days, these pics were taken this morning about 9 am starting off day 5. I'm impressed for only being at the half way point.

As you can see the levee has been shaped and extended much farther along the hill side.

Image: https://i.imgur.com/JQ74wpF.jpg


This is the view from the opposite end... I assume he has some more digging/pushing to do back towards the truck to shave that point and remove the trees in front of his vehicle.

Image: https://i.imgur.com/dB2Hecm.jpg


None the less, I'm very pleased with the progress here at the half way point. He's building a hell of a pond.


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re: Pond Expansion: She don’t get no fuller... Pg. 12
damn you got some pretty pastures


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