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Outboard Motor - New vs. Used
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:22 am
In the market for a 25 HP outboard to put on a new hull that I picked up recently. Was pretty set on trying to pick up a lightly used motor, but I haven't had a lot of luck finding what I'm looking for (4 stroke, short shaft, electric start). Is it worth spending the extra $$ to get a new motor rather than a used? You know what you're getting with the something brand new and a warranty to go with it, but then again I've seen several examples of smaller motors that last many years and don't have many issues.
Any thoughts on this and if buying new, where is the best place around the BR area?
Any thoughts on this and if buying new, where is the best place around the BR area?
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:31 am to Rob Perillo
Don’t see many that come up to meet what you’re looking for. When I do, they’re normally beat to crap and the price point isn’t that great. I’d go new myself. Not in BR so can’t give any recs for that end.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:42 am to Park duck
I would like to get a tohatsu but pricing out new on the Tohatsu vs Yamaha, the Tohatsu is about $500 more... I dont know that there's a big enough difference between the two to justify that?
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:14 am to Rob Perillo
I've had a lot of luck in the past with used motors (2012 Tohatsu 9.8HP 4-stroke, 2005 Mercury 15HP 4-stroke, 2015 Yamaha 25HP 4-stroke). That said, I am currently running a brand new Tohatsu 40HP 4-stroke.
I wouldn't hesitate buying a used motor again, however I love having a brand new motor that I know exactly how its been used and maintained from the very beginning.
I wouldn't hesitate buying a used motor again, however I love having a brand new motor that I know exactly how its been used and maintained from the very beginning.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 3:31 pm to Rob Perillo
Look at finding a used OMC built 2 stroke Johnson or Evinrude. Those are solid outboards and many still in use today.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:24 pm to Rob Perillo
smalloutboards.com usually has good prices on used Mercs but their inventory looks slim right now, probably just like everyone else.
If I were buying new I would call RP in Pierre part and B&D marine and see what a new Yamaha would set you back. I think all the 4 stroke outboards are solid motors and I wouldn't hesitate to go with the brand you find the cheapest as long as you have a good dealer to service your motor. I know I can get good service on a Yamaha from Breax and Daigle even if it is almost an hour drive, it is worth it to me.
If I were buying new I would call RP in Pierre part and B&D marine and see what a new Yamaha would set you back. I think all the 4 stroke outboards are solid motors and I wouldn't hesitate to go with the brand you find the cheapest as long as you have a good dealer to service your motor. I know I can get good service on a Yamaha from Breax and Daigle even if it is almost an hour drive, it is worth it to me.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:30 pm to boudinman
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Look at finding a used OMC built 2 stroke Johnson or Evinrude
^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:38 pm to Rob Perillo
Huh? When the hell did Tohatsus get expensive? 2020 is a sad time to be alive.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:20 pm to Rob Perillo
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Tohatsu vs Yamaha, the Tohatsu is about $500 more
Weird. When I priced em, Tohatsu 40HP was about $1300 less than Yamaha 40HP.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:08 pm to Homey the Clown
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Weird. When I priced em, Tohatsu 40HP was about $1300 less than Yamaha 40HP.
yep, when i bought my mf40 Tohatsu 40HP it was $1500 less than Yamaha 40HP and $900 less then the evinrude 40hp.
OP needs to start making some phone calls because it sounds like that dealer is lying to him about prices
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 11/19/20 at 5:28 am to boudinman
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Look at finding a used OMC built 2 stroke Johnson or Evinrude. Those are solid outboards and many still in use today.
I'm not disagreeing as the smaller OMC motors are work horses. After the collapse of Evinrude recently, how will the parts inventory fair for the older motors? Maybe something to consider for the OP.
I have an old 1975 Evinrude 25 that's been sitting in storage but I'm sure I could drag it out and it would crank right up.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:26 am to keakar
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when I bought my mf40 Tohatsu 40HP
How you loving that motor? I love mine! My boat has been stored at my mother's house since hurricane Laura, but I cant wait to get it (and my family and me) back home.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:35 am to armsdealer
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smalloutboards.com usually has good prices on used Mercs but their inventory looks slim right now, probably just like everyone else.
Seems to me he told me once that the fish camp motors are ready around mid January - early February for some reason. I guess they are used through September and then shipping, testing, the holidays etc. puts them in Florida just in time for spring. Those motors are almost new and the prices are far better than new. He also usually has some solid motors in most sizes available but prices are a little more, in my opinion, than you can find them elsewhere....but dude has a good reputation for making sure they are right and backing them up and you don't get that off craigslist.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:41 am to Barneyrb
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Look at finding a used OMC built 2 stroke Johnson or Evinrude
^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^
I third that motion!
I have a 1970's 9.9 Evinrude that has not been ran in 2 (?) years and I would be SHOCKED if it failed to crank on the second pull of the rope. I bought the thing when I was a kid from a friends dad and it has been around the world and has been used and abused and it just keeps on ticking. It ain't pretty but it could be with some attention.
I have crossed the gulf stream many times on second hand OMC 2 strokes....I won't do it on an oil injected model that isn't running on mixed fuel but other than some issues I have had with oil injection on OMC 2 strokes I do not think there has ever been a more reliable outboard. And I have never had an oil injection issue other than a sensor problem but it just ain't worth the risk offshore....
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:43 am to Homey the Clown
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Weird. When I priced em, Tohatsu 40HP was about $1300 less than Yamaha 40HP.
Backwoods Landing in Decatur Alabama is advertising 2020 Tohatsu 25 tillers, electric start and power tilt for $4599. I would be surprised if you could find a yammy for that...
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:49 am to Rob Perillo
Outboards are, in my experience, the most reliable mechanical system ever built...all of them. Even Chryslers LOL. They are super easy to work on, if you can get parts, not always easy, and they will run FOREVER if even a little bit of care is taken with them. Of course the bigger they get the more complex they get and therefore more likely something can be wrong but in my experience if it will spin it will run and run like a top with some attention....and even if it won't spin it may be fine....I found a 9.9 merc when I was a kid (in my uncles shed LOL) and for some reason someone took the plugs out of it....it was in BAD shape. I tore that sucker down with a couple of screw drivers and a crescent wrench, mostly, and polished the cylinders with emory cloth and the pistons, put it back together with the same rings and gaskets it had when I found it....and that thing is still going strong 43 years later. It was seized up tighter than dicks hat band but a little TLC from a 12 year old and BOOM like new....
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:05 pm to Gtmodawg
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Outboards are, in my experience, the most reliable mechanical system ever built...all of them. Even Chryslers LOL. They are super easy to work on
Maybe the old carbureted pre mix 2 strokes. The Direct Inject 2 strokes and the 4 strokes aren't nearly as simple. ALOT of gadgets on newer motors bring a significant opportunity for break downs...most of it was done to curb pollution too
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:45 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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Maybe the old carbureted pre mix 2 strokes. The Direct Inject 2 strokes and the 4 strokes aren't nearly as simple. ALOT of gadgets on newer motors bring a significant opportunity for break downs...most of it was done to curb pollution too
No doubt newer models are far more complex but they are still simple relative to an auto engine, for example. I hear a lot of talk about them being even more dependable and from a bad fuel standpoint this may well be but I seriously doubt as complex as they have become if they are more reliable in the long term....
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:02 pm to boudinman
Ive got a 90's era johnson and weve got one at them camp that has to be 70's era, both still run like champs.
I caved in and bought a new Yamaha yesterday. As far as the Yamaha vs. Tohatsu pricing, it seemed like Duvic's in NOLA was the only place nearby selling Tohatsu. Bought the Yamaha from Breaux in Pierre Part.
I caved in and bought a new Yamaha yesterday. As far as the Yamaha vs. Tohatsu pricing, it seemed like Duvic's in NOLA was the only place nearby selling Tohatsu. Bought the Yamaha from Breaux in Pierre Part.
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