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TexasTiger08
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Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I’ve never been a gun owner, but this climate makes me feel the need to get 1...or 2. I don’t know the first thing about guns.

Any tips on what would be the best type of gun to purchase would be appreciated. I don’t want to drop $1500 on something crazy if I don’t need to.

I’ve fired hunting rifles when I was a kid, and that’s about it. I don’t have enemies that I know of, so I’m not trying to wipe out an army. My profession isn’t one that would lend me to being in right situations. With that said, I want to make sure I’m prepared of shite gets real and I need people off of my property. And no, I’m not referring to some 15 year old trying to steal the weed-whacked, but I guess that would be a nice perk too.

I’m flying blind on this, so I’d like some advice from the pros that seem to be prevalent on this board.
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I’m not a “glock guy”. But you sound you like you need a glock 17. 9mm. Cheap mags, cheap ammo, pull the trigger and it goes bang, not expensive.


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TnMountaineer
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Might I recommend a 9mm with thumb safety? Taurus makes a good one for approximately 400.

I would also look into ARs. I’m just getting into them but you can get a nice one for under a grand.


Splackavellie
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Highly recommend CZ P-07 if you are wanting a 9mm. Has interchangeable safety or decocker depending on your preference. Runs around $450


TexasTiger08
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I don’t know if a 9 is what I ‘want.’ I just want something that I can count on to get the job done. I’m soon to be married, and I’m sure a child will follow in the next couple of years.

I want something that would be simple enough to use with some practice, but something that will get the job done. And by that, I mean I need enough firepower.


TigerOnThe Hill
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Yeah, the current climate and uneasiness is making a lot of people rethink their personal defense needs. Are you looking for home defense, property defense, vehicle defense or all of the above? If property defense is a concern, how big is your property? Will the defense gun also be handled by a wife or GF?


TexasTiger08
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
My girl has her own gun. Her dad worked in the prison system and dealt with some real shit, so she’s good to go.

I live in a neighborhood and my lot is a little under a third of an acre. It would be for home and property defense primarily.

I don’t think any problems would arise in my city and neighborhood. Things are pretty peaceful here, but I am not taking chances any longer.


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DarthTiger
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
For rifles, the Ruger AR556 is a solid one under $1k. Usually find them around $700 but likely more given what’s going on. There are tons of them up for auction on gunbroker.com.


TexasTiger08
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I wouldn’t be opposed to a rifle


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10MTNTiger
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Start out like everyone does...get a bolt action .22 rifle. Shoot it and gain some working confidence then move on and add a Remington 870 Shotgun or something similar.

If you have zero firearms experience you need to build a foundation first. I would not recommend going straight to a handgun like a glock, and I’m a big glock fan. You have to learn what you’re doing first. Add the semi-auto handgun later when you are ready.


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Nole Man
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Full disclosure: I have several pistols. My M&P 2.0 Compact is the primary one and I have several shot guns around the house.

But, in terms of current research and if I was going to start from scratch?

Best "bang for the buck" right now is the Taurus G3c. Under $300.

More capacity, home defense?

CZ P-10 F.

If you want something more, look into the Ruger PC Charger 9mm. Around $700 base price without some options you might want like folding stock.

Review.

There are numerous other threads on this topic here as well. And with all these discussions, it's primary that you train and become proficient with your weapon(s) for safety.


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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
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I want something that would be simple enough to use with some practice, but something that will get the job done. And by that, I mean I need enough firepower.


May I recommend a Glock 45. The model not the caliber. Its a 9mm with a Glock 19 slide and Glock 17 frame. Kinda of best of both worlds.



mrgreenpants
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
to piggyback this thread..

we ran into an issue after taking the woman her mama to the shooting range...

i *thought* a kimber 9mm would work well for them.. but racking that slide was a challenge.

which semi-auto pistols are known to be easiest for the womenfolk to use(comfortably)?


Nole Man
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I haven't shot one yet, but the M&P EZ series (9mm or .380) have great reviews in terms of ease of racking the slides.


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IAmNERD
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
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which semi-auto pistols are known to be easiest for the womenfolk to use(comfortably)?

My wife is pretty small and we ran into this problem when she started shooting with me. She has carried a S&W .380 Bodyguard for a few years now with no problems being able to rack the slide. She wanted something a little bigger with more capacity in 9mm for cheaper ammo. So we looked around and came across the S&W M&P EZ Shield. Bought it and she loves it.

It has springs that aren't as stiff as your normal semi auto. I was hesitant thinking it didn't have enough stiffness to strip and chamber another round, but between me and her we've put a little over 400 rounds through it with no failures with self defense and ball rounds. It's a solid 9mm for anyone who has trouble pulling back a slide on a semi auto.


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dawg23
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
1. I understand your level of discomfort. I get about a dozen calls a week from people who have never owned a handgun.

2. As is the case on any internet board, you're going to get a lot of well-intentioned replies to your query. Unfortunately many of them need to be disregarded.

3. There are a LOT of pieces to "the answer." If you want to call me, I'll be happy to discuss it with you. (In the CCW classes, I teach we spend about an hour going over the attributes that you need to consider - in their order of importance.)

4. I don't sell guns (or anything else, unless you own a refinery or pipeline system and need surveying services ). What I'll be sharing is based on what I've learned carrying for 25 years and what I've learned during ~500 hours as a student at the most prestigious defensive handgun academies in the U.S.

Ernie Gammon 225-278-3636 (Mobile).

ETA: I am not currently teaching CCW classes due to the COVID-19 situation. (It's impossible to maintain "social distancing" in my classroom.) I don't think anybody knows when things will settle down - and I don't know many people who are so desperate for a permit that they would sit for 9 hours in "close confinement" with a bunch of strangers.

Please note:
LSP allowed/ignored expiration dates on permits for two months under the Governor's original COVID "Stay at Home" order. On May 15th LSP resumed processing applications and resumed "normal" enforcement of permit expiration regulations.
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TigerstuckinMS
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
Go to a GOOD range. Good ranges will have three things you will need.

First, they will have competent people who know their way around guns and will be more than happy to talk guns with you and help you find the right weapon for you and your needs. Someone who knows what they're doing can really help you find a weapon that you can operate and will not be shy or scared of firing regularly.

Second, they will offer training classes so that you can learn to properly employ, clean, and store your new weapon. It does you absolutely zero good to buy a weapon and have no idea how it operates, how to use it, clean it, and store it. A good range will offer both new shooter classes and defensive pistol classes to familiarize you with guns in general and specifically how to employ them in a self-defense situation. I can't recommend enough that you take, at the very least, a new shooter's class.

Third, they will have many different pistols and rifles that you can rent and take on the range with you and test fire. I prefer MY handgun and MY rifle, but MY solutions may not work for YOU; if I hand them to you, you might hate them and think they're absolute garbage. Not every gun is for every person and the internet can't tell you what YOU should buy for YOUR situation. It's definitely a personal thing. Working for YOU is what's key, so a place that has many options you can try out with live-fire can really help you identify weapons you like and don't like and whittle down to something you will be willing to use and put the time into.

So, go to one of those places and tell the people behind the counter exactly why you're there, what you want, and what your level of training/knowledge is. They will steer you right into getting the training you need and finding the right weapon for your needs and abilities.

Once you find your weapon, you need to PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. It does you no good to take the class, buy the gun, and then stick it in a closet with a box of ammo, forgotten until you need it. You'll die fumbling with the gun if you ever need it to save your life. Half-asleep at 3 am and loaded with adrenaline is not the time to be familiarizing yourself with the weapon. At the point you need to use it, you will be reliant on training and muscle memory to save your life and the only way to gain that is to put hundreds or thousands of rounds downrange and to keep doing it over time to maintain your skills. It'll be on you to regularly go to the range to maintain your skills and familiarity with the weapon. This is why finding a weapon you really like to shoot is so critical. If going to the range is a pleasant experience, you're more likely to put in the required repetition to really gain the level of proficiency you'll need to protect yourself.

Do all that and you'll be well on your way to being able to protect you and yours.

Good luck, HAVE FUN WITH IT, and remember: PRACTICE.
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DovaVol
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
I'm in the same boat as you and just bought a Ruger EC9 for many of the same reasons you stated. Had great reviews as a beginners handgun, and got it for under $250.


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TaderSalad
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
OP, call a local police supply and see if they have any used Glocks for sale. You can typically get an agency trade in for cheap. It will be used, but Glocks are good for thousands of rounds.


With the money you save, buy lots of practice ammo and get proficient. It's one thing to own a gun... it's another thing to discharge it and hit someone you didn't mean to.


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Chad504boy
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re: Newb looking for a gun...asking for help
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I don’t know if a 9 is what I ‘want.’
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I just want something that I can count on to get the job done. I’m soon to be married, and I’m sure a child will follow in the next couple of years.

I want something that would be simple enough to use with some practice, but something that will get the job done. And by that, I mean I need enough firepower.



what the hell are you talking about.


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