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re: New Pimitive Weapons

Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:51 am to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:51 am to
Single shot designed before 18something i think.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:52 am to
quote:

has to be single shot
Not sure how the rule is written but my Encore is legal if I use a muzzleloader barrel but if I put a 45-70 barrel on then it's illegal.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:52 am to
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.357 S&W Mag.


Downshift has a boner.


I like the season because it affords me two extra weeks of hunting opportunities, but I agree with Da Hammer, there is nothing "primitive" about my scoped .444 Marlin.


If they did go back to strictly primitive, that would give me a reason to shoot flintlocks and other actual primitive firearms, so I somewhat wish they would.
Posted by BarDTiger81
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:56 am to
Cheers to all you mofos in BR . Rolling thru now headed nurf.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:56 am to
If dem bastards legalize single action revolvers it will be fricking ON during primitive week
Posted by Slickback
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Not sure how the rule is written but my Encore is legal if I use a muzzleloader barrel but if I put a 45-70 barrel on then it's illegal.


A muzzleloader is legal in primitive season. An Encore with a muzzle-loaded barrel is still a muzzleloader.

In addition to muzzleloader, they allow single shot, breach loading rifles designed prior to 1900 that shoot a bullet of .44 caliber or higher (which now I see it has changed). An Encore with a 45-70 is not a pre-1900 designed weapon.

That is my interpretation anyway.
Posted by chadg
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:47 pm to
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.38-40 Win.


Got one in my safe that is late 1800's Winchester lever action. Does it have to be single shot? I currently use a .45-70, but would be happy if i could use that old .38-40.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:51 pm to
You're pretty much correct but the year Missippi legalized the Encore I was told by some guys with LDWF that they'd be legal in Louisiana soon. I own one and just want the opportunity to use it if I choose but last year I only used my bow even during firearms season.

Maybe I'm just looking for a reason to buy a new barrel for it.
This post was edited on 3/7/12 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:55 pm to
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Does it have to be single shot?


I think so


quote:

1. Rifles or pistols, .44 caliber minimum, or shotguns 10 gauge or smaller, all of which must load exclusively from the muzzle or cap and ball cylinder, use black powder or approved substitute only, take ball or bullet projectile only, including saboted bullets, including primitive firearms known as “in line” primitive firearms, and


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2. Single shot, breech loading rifles, .38 caliber or larger of a kind or type manufactured prior to 1900 and replicas, reproductions or reintroductions of that type rifle having an exposed hammer that use metallic cartridges loaded either with black powder or modern smokeless powder. All of the above may be fitted with magnified scopes.


LDWF
This post was edited on 3/7/12 at 12:57 pm
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:25 pm to
Notice of Intent
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*Amending the Primitive Firearm language by removing the pre-1900 designation to allow for additional types of firearms. Additionally, specify that only Commission approved calibers will be allowed.
Posted by Hawgon
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:33 pm to
If the point is to somewhat limit the effectiveness of firearms yet, not make it such a specialized sport as to discourage people from participating, they should just outlaw optics.

Have a seaons where optics are not allowed. You can hunt with whatever you want, but it has to be with open sights.

Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Have a seaons where optics are not allowed. You can hunt with whatever you want, but it has to be with open sights.

I'd be down with this
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:47 pm to
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Have a seaons where optics are not allowed. You can hunt with whatever you want, but it has to be with open sights.
I like that idea.
Posted by Slickback
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Have a seaons where optics are not allowed. You can hunt with whatever you want, but it has to be with open sights.


I'd like that too. I have a badass Winchester 30/30 with iron sights.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 2:02 pm to
I no longer see the point of a primitive season.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

no longer see the point of a primitive season.
Gun manufactorers like it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 3/7/12 at 3:00 pm to
yes, no doubt.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22804 posts
Posted on 3/7/12 at 3:04 pm to
How much pull do you think gun makers have in this debate?

I'm normally not a conspiracy person, but these "primitive" seasons make you think about it.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 3:05 pm to
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Have a seaons where optics are not allowed. You can hunt with whatever you want, but it has to be with open sights.

I actually do not like this idea. Thats going to lead to people taking 150-200 yd shots with rifles and wounding a lot of deer
Posted by Slickback
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Member since Mar 2008
28156 posts
Posted on 3/7/12 at 3:06 pm to
Makes you wonder. How much do you think New England Firearms/Harrington & Richardson made in the past 7-8 years on Handi Rifles?

Hornady probably did better than well on its LeveRevolution ammo too.
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