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Looking to get into photography

Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by JasonHotWheelsStreet
Member since Mar 2015
393 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:47 pm
I've gone many years putting off investment into a camera, but have bee more open to the idea to be persuaded. What would be the more appropriate entry-ish level camera? Trying to stay in range of $500-$1,300 and use it for landscapes, possibly portrait type.

Research has me leaning to the Nikon d5500 or Nikon d6500 cameras. Both having the same shell, sensors, etc. but 6500 is amped up with touch screen, more focus points, wi-fi and such. Are these worth the try? What others am I missing and should I jump into something better?

Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
Member since Mar 2017
1538 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:50 pm to
Cannon Rebel. Great starter camera. Bought it for the wife with the same idea in mind as you and it worked out great.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:14 pm to
The lenses are where you will be either frustrated or happy. Spend money on a good lens or two. The ones that come with the basic kits usually suck. You are going to need a good 50mm and one for landscapes
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:33 pm to
Been a while since I was into this hobby, my SIL is into it big. From what I understand, the rebel cannot accept the larger pro grade cannon lenses without an adapter. And even then, the camera cant perform up to the lenses. Kinda like putting a Swaro or Khales on a Savage. However, to get your feet wet in the hobby, there are plenty of good lenses the rebel will accept, but the camera body isn't even close to pro grade. I have a Nikon 5200 and really love it. It's kind of the sweet spot at higher amateur without jumping off the deep end. It accepts a larger range of lenses in the Nikon family than the rebel will in the canon family. I've made home movies in HD with it and plugged it right into the TV
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:37 pm to
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From what I understand, the rebel cannot accept the larger pro grade cannon lenses without an adapter.


Canon L lenses will fit directly onto a rebel camera.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11526 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:45 pm to
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From what I understand, the rebel cannot accept the larger pro grade cannon lenses without an adapter.


No. A Rebel can use both EF-S (crop factor lenses) and EF lenses (full frame lenses including the L "professional grade" lenses)

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And even then, the camera cant perform up to the lenses


True you won't be using all of the glass you paid for putting a full frame lense on a crop camera but you can still get great results

OP, if you have any interest in Canon then check out the 80D. It's in your price range. LINK

You may want to look into mirroless cameras as well. I'm sure others will be along shortly with Sony recommendations.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:47 pm to
What type of photos do you want to take?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:56 pm to
LINK

Fuji xt-30 with 18-55

Camera is stellar (not their premium product but is still incredible) and the 18-55 is the best and sharpest kit lens you can get. Color reproduction is top notch

Fuji doesn't make a bad lens.

I've got a Fuji XH-1, it's incredible.

I rarely use the wifi or touch screen functions on m camera. Fuji has the old school dials in addition to the high tech stuff, love em.

Mirrorless is awesome. What you see in the EVF is exactly what your picture will look like


This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 10:33 am
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:57 pm to
Wish the tech was there when I was shuttering away like a Hollywood producer.
Stacks and stacks of pics, but what a pain to log. I know it can be done, but I might not have that much time!
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
2672 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 8:56 pm to
I appreciate the feedback, like I said, it's been about 6 yrs since I was in it and pretty sure things have changed.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5932 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:09 am to
quote:

Research has me leaning to the Nikon d5500 or Nikon d6500 cameras. Both having the same shell, sensors, etc. but 6500 is amped up with touch screen, more focus points, wi-fi and such. Are these worth the try? What others am I missing and should I jump into something better?


I never use the wi-fi feature in my cameras card readers are much faster.

D5500 was the first in that price range to have excellent low light capability. It's a smaller form factor got one for the wife (no pics) and she loves it, matched with Tamron 16-300mm lenses which is sharper and smaller than the equivalent Nikon super zoom version. For the money it's an amazing combo that can shoot indoors w/o a flash no problem i.e. kids birthday parties.

Canon makes excellent stuff too but I'm not very familiar with them. Some like their color rendition over Nikon, to my eye it's a draw. Canon's user interface is superior to Nikon's for the casual shooter.

I've been buying lightly used gear from Adorma and B&H Photo the last five years, no issues and saves a ton over new. For cameras there is software on the web that will give you the number of shutter actuations, most I've seen are between 200-500 on 100,000 to 150k rated shutters. Buy one and if it's too high for your liking send it back.

Here's a "lightly" used D5500 at B&H for $350 (lol).
D5500

Tamron's 16-300mm new is < $500 haven't looked for used ones but they're out there. Don't get their cheaper 18-270mm it's a dog. Along with a Nikon 35mm f/1.8 ~ $200 you'd be set for a long time.
Tamron 16-300mm

If I was just starting out might go mirrorless especially for video, either Fuji or Olympus are good choices. Good glass though is as expensive as APS-C (DX) format. Over the long haul, buy the best lenses you can afford and they'll stay with you a long time.

I wouldn't start out with expensive stuff, a D5500 with super zoom and 35mm fast prime lenses is a nice way to get going buying good used gear, and can be done for less than a thousand bucks.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:57 am to
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. Good glass though is as expensive as APS-C (DX) format.


Fuji and Sony are the best IMO in the APS-C class. The Micro 4/3rds cameras are lighter, less expensive and smaller, but that sensor is just not great in low light.

Sony and Fuji have a huge range of lenses for mirrorless, but yeah..they cost a bit. However it's the wave of the future.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5495 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:30 am to
The Tokina 11-20 f/2.8 is an excellent landscape lens for a crop sensor. Also an excellent lens for a lot of other uses.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:17 am to
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I've been buying lightly used gear from Adorma and B&H Photo the last five years,


KEH is another great source for used, refurb, etc...

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23833 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:30 am to
I used to be pretty heavy in to the photography game, but haven't done much with in in a while.

Here's a sampling...
















I could post more, but you get the idea. I'll say this. Take EVERYONE'S gear recommendation with a 5 lb bag of rock salt. In this day and age, the gear is no longer the weak link in the chain. All of those photos were taken with a camera that's pushing 10 years old now, and all could/have been printed poster size and larger. Even entry level gear today is likely equal to/superior to what I used in resolution, dynamic range and noise/low light performance. The weak link for most people is technique.

If you really want to have photos that "pop" then you need a firm understanding of the basics of photography. First and foremost, the basic elements of composition. Quite often I see good photographs that could be great if not for simple "mistakes". Things like out of focus images due to missed focus points or lack of understanding of how aperture relates to depth of field. Or (woefully) over/underexposed photos with blown highlights or lack of shadow detail. Things like unlevel horizon lines or distracting elements in the composition like intruding elements in the frame or "mergers". These are the things that cannot be fixed with post processing.

One thing to always thing about. A good photograph should tell a story, or evoke emotion. Understand what your subject is with every photography. With every photography you take (or choose to process) ask yourself, why would someone else want to look at it (or buy it).

As far as gear goes, I will say this; buy the best lenses you can afford. As I mentioned before, since camera bodies are run by microprocessors, they are subject to Moore's law. However, lenses are not. The physics for good optics are the same now as they were 100 years ago. Yes, the manufactures are always improving focus motors and "micro-coatings" but the basic technology is the same.

Good luck.

This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53590 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Looking to get into photography


I read this as "looking to get into pornography"
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:30 am to
I would recommend the Sony a6100 or better mirrorless camera


Lens:

Sony E PZ 18105mm f40

Sony 50mm f18
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8952 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:50 am to
quote:

What others am I missing and should I jump into something better?


That the lenses are a lot more important that the bodies.

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