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Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR on 3/18/17 at 8:41 am00
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I currently have a Springfield XD 9mm 4" for the house.
I'm going to the gun range today to test out a few different ones. I've seen posted where people say to get a CC gun without a thumb safety, what is the reasoning behind this thought? I'm open to most brands, just trying to stay in the $500 range.
ETA: Does anyone have a recommendation on a range bag? I would like to shoot more often and bring my wife, but I currently don't have the supplies to bring everything in a neat and orderly manner. I would like something that holds at least two guns.
I currently have a Springfield XD 9mm 4" for the house.
I'm going to the gun range today to test out a few different ones. I've seen posted where people say to get a CC gun without a thumb safety, what is the reasoning behind this thought? I'm open to most brands, just trying to stay in the $500 range.
ETA: Does anyone have a recommendation on a range bag? I would like to shoot more often and bring my wife, but I currently don't have the supplies to bring everything in a neat and orderly manner. I would like something that holds at least two guns.
This post was edited on 3/26 at 10:24 am
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by bbvdd on 3/18/17 at 8:48 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Do you really want a ported barrel?
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR on 3/18/17 at 8:51 am to bbvdd
No, just browsing through slickguns and saw it. Is there anything wrong with a ported barrel? I was more intrigued by it already having night sights.
This post was edited on 3/18 at 8:52 am
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Hammertime on 3/18/17 at 8:52 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Definitely a good deal. My dad paid $550 for one a while back
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by bbvdd on 3/18/17 at 9:05 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Hi-viz is not night sights. Ported barrels help with controlling recoil. They're mainly for competition guns but they're loud. Really loud.
This one will have a much better trigger than a normal but you can replace the factory trigger with an apex.
It really is a good deal for a performance center but I personally would not want a ported cc gun.
This one will have a much better trigger than a normal but you can replace the factory trigger with an apex.
It really is a good deal for a performance center but I personally would not want a ported cc gun.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR on 3/18/17 at 9:10 am to bbvdd
Thanks for the info.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Tactical Insertion on 3/18/17 at 9:54 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Capital Cajun on 3/18/17 at 10:06 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Shield is a great CC gun but you are doing the right thing by testing a few out. It's not the gun per say but your ability to put shots on target with the gun and not all are the same.
As far as range bag go to Uncle Larrys site Midway USA, type range bag in the search bar, and take your pick.
As far as range bag go to Uncle Larrys site Midway USA, type range bag in the search bar, and take your pick.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Timmayy on 3/18/17 at 10:12 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Yeah my recommendation would be to go shoot the M&P shield and shoot the glock 43 and buy whichever you like the best. Out of the box the M&P is a better deal and probably a better gun but after putting +1 Tarzan tactical baseplates on the glock it edged out to be a better gun for me but it is a little more expensive.
The reasoning behind no thumb safety is it's just one more step that is unnecessary in these days striker fired weapons. For one you could accidentally hit the safety on causing you not to be able to shoot, you could try to shoot thinking the safety is off, or you could get shot trying to turn the safety off and taking too much time in trying to do so.
As long as you carry in a good holster (preferably a kydex one or at a minimum a hybrid) that covers the trigger guard. that is all the safety that gun needs. Inside of a holster it is mechanically impossible for the glocks and like guns to be fired. Once out of the holster the four rules of guns apply.
The reasoning behind no thumb safety is it's just one more step that is unnecessary in these days striker fired weapons. For one you could accidentally hit the safety on causing you not to be able to shoot, you could try to shoot thinking the safety is off, or you could get shot trying to turn the safety off and taking too much time in trying to do so.
As long as you carry in a good holster (preferably a kydex one or at a minimum a hybrid) that covers the trigger guard. that is all the safety that gun needs. Inside of a holster it is mechanically impossible for the glocks and like guns to be fired. Once out of the holster the four rules of guns apply.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR on 3/18/17 at 12:16 pm to Timmayy
Thanks for all the help.
I want to buy this bag because it looks like the best deal, but the color is so bold.
Purple One
I may just get this one since it is a little bigger and allows me room to grow.
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I want to buy this bag because it looks like the best deal, but the color is so bold.
Purple One
I may just get this one since it is a little bigger and allows me room to grow.
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re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Ace Midnight on 3/18/17 at 12:40 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
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I currently have a Springfield XD 9mm 4" for the house.
I'm going to recommend you look at the XDS first (and in 9mm, to boot) - particularly if you're already happy with the XD. Not saying either gun is A+ and honestly, I don't know a whole lot about them, other than family members have them. I'm all Sig, handgun wise at this point. But, I think that there is utility to keeping the same family of weapons (again, if the XD is working for you) - because you invest time in learning 1 fire control system and the way Company A does things - why reinvent the wheel?
The XDS seems a little heavy for a polymer CC - that would be my only concern.
For defense guns - keep things simple. Night sights are nice, but not an absolute necessity. You want a weapon that you can - almost without thinking - pick up (or draw), acquire a target and fire. The fewer different types of platforms you have, the easier that's going to be.
This post was edited on 3/18 at 12:42 pm
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Timmayy on 3/18/17 at 3:16 pm to Ace Midnight
The reality is with these striker fired guns. Especially if you take safeties out of the equation their manual of arms is pretty much exactly the same. Slide releases don't matter because you should train to overhand rack. Trigger pulls in their simplest form are basically the same between most striker fired weapons and magazine releases are placed similarly and operate the same. That's why I suggested picked the favorite between those two. While with glocks it makes sense to retain in the same family when talking about larger framed guns magazine compatibility it isn't quite as large a factor when jumping down into the single stacks. One reason I'm biased against the xds. I just think it's one more safety to fail and prevent me from firing. I don't believe it is necessary. Otherwise inbelieve it's a fine gun.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by lsufan1971 on 3/18/17 at 4:44 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
I would not get a ported barrel for CC for various reasons. 1:) if your shooting at night you're going to be blinded/distracted by the flash. 2:) it's a 9mm and the port isn't going to help much with recoil. 3:) See #1 again
quote:Amen.
One reason I'm biased against the xds. I just think it's one more safety to fail and prevent me from firing. I don't believe it is necessary.
quote:Another Amen.
I would not get a ported barrel for CC for various reasons. 1:) if your shooting at night you're going to be blinded/distracted by the flash. 2:) it's a 9mm and the port isn't going to help much with recoil. 3:) See #1 again
See #1 again. Even during the daytime you're gonna get a "blast" in the face that often (not always) leads to flinching. If the jacket separates from the lead bullet, you might get more than a jet of hot air in your face.
With the proper grip you don't need a ported barrel on a 9mm pistol.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by Hammertime on 3/18/17 at 5:22 pm to Timmayy
quote:I hate when people say this. Train one way, and stick with it
you should train to overhand rack.
I just think too high of a chance to not disengage the stock slide release and too high of a chance to accidentally hold down an extended slide release.
Whereas overhand rack works with a much higher percentage of succes. Albeit maybe slightly slower.
Whereas overhand rack works with a much higher percentage of succes. Albeit maybe slightly slower.
This post was edited on 3/18 at 5:42 pm
quote:Every gun school / defensive handgun training class I have ever attended (total is over 300 hours) teaches overhand rack.
Not to derail the thread, but why?
The biggest reasons given are (a) it will work on virtually every firearm you pick up, and (b) it affords the best grip, using the strongest muscles in your hand/forearm.
This post was edited on 3/18 at 7:51 pm
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR on 3/18/17 at 7:40 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
Bought the MidwayUSA Competition Range Bag System over the smaller cheaper bag.
Went to a range near my house and shot the XDS, M&P Shield and a Walther CCP. I couldn't tell much difference between the first two, hated the Walther. The guy didn't have a Glock 43 to shoot. I will go to another range that has a much wider selection and try to shoot the Glock. I'm not in a super rush since I'm waiting for my LTC permit to come in the mail before I buy.
Thanks for all of the help.
Went to a range near my house and shot the XDS, M&P Shield and a Walther CCP. I couldn't tell much difference between the first two, hated the Walther. The guy didn't have a Glock 43 to shoot. I will go to another range that has a much wider selection and try to shoot the Glock. I'm not in a super rush since I'm waiting for my LTC permit to come in the mail before I buy.
Thanks for all of the help.
re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by DeoreDX on 3/18/17 at 9:25 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
A little late but I have this one and like it. Cheap too. Hills a lot of stuff. Comes with a padded case for a pistol. Fits plastic pistol cases in the main compartment. Holds a lot of stuff
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I use this one the most though. Like how it holds a hard case that holds two pistols. Main compartment holds ammo, head gear, roll of tape, etc. Smaller compartment for mags and tools. Smaller and more expensive than the other one but a good size for when I just bring a couple of pistols and a rifle or two for a quick range session.
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I use this one the most though. Like how it holds a hard case that holds two pistols. Main compartment holds ammo, head gear, roll of tape, etc. Smaller compartment for mags and tools. Smaller and more expensive than the other one but a good size for when I just bring a couple of pistols and a rifle or two for a quick range session.
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re: Looking to get a CC gun, is this a good deal? UPDATE on page 3.Posted by TigerOnThe Hill on 3/18/17 at 10:05 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I think that's a good idea as well, especially if the XD you already have handles and naturally points well for you. Glocks are good guns, but they don't point well for everyone. For me, Glocks point rather high. I've not handled a Shield enough to know how it handles for me. But the question is, what gun(s) handle(s) well for YOU?
I'm going to recommend you look at the XDS first (and in 9mm, to boot) - particularly if you're already happy with the XD.
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