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Lemonfish & Bull Red Set Up
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:35 pm
Looking for recommendations on a cobia/drum set up. I'm a baitcaster guy and most of what I see online are spinning set ups.
Been mostly inshore fishing with Curados on a 7' BPS Xtreme with 30lb braid. Brought in some 40" reds, but I'm wondering if something more purpose built would be better if I want to target them. Also looking to find some lemonfish this season as well.
TIA, baws
Been mostly inshore fishing with Curados on a 7' BPS Xtreme with 30lb braid. Brought in some 40" reds, but I'm wondering if something more purpose built would be better if I want to target them. Also looking to find some lemonfish this season as well.
TIA, baws
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:44 pm to GeekedUp
The Ambassadors with the bigs spools like the 6500 c3 or the “striper special” are solid and not going to break you.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:12 pm to GeekedUp
What's your budget?
I'm a shimano fanboy, so I would recommend a Thunnus (baitrunner)or Saragosa in like a 8000-10000 with some 60 pound braid. The board turned me on to Jerry Brown and I really like it, softer than Power Pro.
I use Shimano Talus rods, but if I had to buy new ones, if probably try the ugly stick tiger rods, people seem to like them a lot and the price is right.
Alan Hawk likes the Quantum Cabo reels, might be a little cheaper than the Shimano. Alan Hawk Lists
I'm a shimano fanboy, so I would recommend a Thunnus (baitrunner)or Saragosa in like a 8000-10000 with some 60 pound braid. The board turned me on to Jerry Brown and I really like it, softer than Power Pro.
I use Shimano Talus rods, but if I had to buy new ones, if probably try the ugly stick tiger rods, people seem to like them a lot and the price is right.
Alan Hawk likes the Quantum Cabo reels, might be a little cheaper than the Shimano. Alan Hawk Lists
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:13 pm to GeekedUp
5000-7000 size spinning reel (Penn or shimano) w/ a live bait clicker feature paired with a rod rated up to 30-50#. Good Mangrove set up too.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:17 pm to The Last Coco
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w/ a live bait clicker feature p
Shimano rules this category, I wouldn't go with Pen there.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 8:16 pm to Purple Spoon
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The Ambassadors with the bigs spools like the 6500 c3 or the “striper special” are solid and not going to break you.
This and 50lb power pro. Just match a good rod with it.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 9:00 pm to fishfighter
My bullred setup... 8ft ugly stick with abu 7000cs with 50 lb power pro.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:59 am to GeekedUp
Shimano Tranx 300 or 400 on a shimano teramar se inshore 7' MH
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:06 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:26 am to GeekedUp
you can catch a lemon fish on anything. i caught one on my sabiki rig. they dont pull fast. you can wear them out in 5-10 mins.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 11:44 am to GeekedUp
Calcutta 400 with a decent MH rod should suffice and be fairly affordable.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 11:52 am to JAB528
Don't know what your budget is, but if you are partial to a baitcaster take a look at the Daiwa Lexa 400 paired with whatever rod you prefer. The Lexa carries plenty of drag and won't break the bank like a Shimano Tranx will.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 12:22 pm to GeekedUp
Honestly, if I actually targeted bull reds, I would probably use a different rod than for cobia. Spinning reel is what you need for cobia as you will be doing a lot of sight fishing which involves dropping the bait maybe 30 times on the fish's nose before he decides it's worth eating. You usually want the bail open while doing so, which allows him to take the bait and turn for a run before you flip the bail closed.
As for bull reds, you'll probably be doing more casting or soaking bait, where a baitcaster is more ideal. If you want something for both, I would absolutely go with a strong spinning reel.
As for bull reds, you'll probably be doing more casting or soaking bait, where a baitcaster is more ideal. If you want something for both, I would absolutely go with a strong spinning reel.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 1:40 pm to Jester
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Honestly, if I actually targeted bull reds, I would probably use a different rod than for cobia. Spinning reel is what you need for cobia as you will be doing a lot of sight fishing which involves dropping the bait maybe 30 times on the fish's nose before he decides it's worth eating. You usually want the bail open while doing so, which allows him to take the bait and turn for a run before you flip the bail closed.
As for bull reds, you'll probably be doing more casting or soaking bait, where a baitcaster is more ideal. If you want something for both, I would absolutely go with a strong spinning reel.
Exactly this.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:33 pm to GeekedUp
I used to fish Dixey Bar in Mobile Bay a lot. There are a lot of big fish there.
I started with a Shimano Baitrunner 6500. Think I have 50lbs braid on it. Worked great and still have it.
Also have a Penn 310 GTi that worked great 50lbs braid on this one as well.
I finally wanted to drop down to something a little smaller so I used a Shimano Stratic 4500 with 30lbs braid on a 7ft mh rod.
The stradic was my favorite. I could wear the big ones down pretty quickly as well.
I started with a Shimano Baitrunner 6500. Think I have 50lbs braid on it. Worked great and still have it.
Also have a Penn 310 GTi that worked great 50lbs braid on this one as well.
I finally wanted to drop down to something a little smaller so I used a Shimano Stratic 4500 with 30lbs braid on a 7ft mh rod.
The stradic was my favorite. I could wear the big ones down pretty quickly as well.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:38 pm to GeekedUp
I use a Shimano Calcutta 700 with a Trevala rod. That setup also doubles up as my snapper setup. Best combo I've ever used and I've run this setup for over 5 years now with no issues.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:24 am to Jester
Thanks all. Looks like a lot of love for the Ambassadeur. I still have two old 5000C's that just keep going. Teaching my kids on them now.
I've been using Shimano Curado's for a long time, so I'll check the Calcutta as well.
Can someone explain this a bit more? What makes a spinning reel better to "drop 30 times"? I'm not opposed to the idea, I'm just not very familiar with spinning reels and new to cobia fishing.
Also a lot of big striper up here, so I might could use this rig for that as well.
thanks again
I've been using Shimano Curado's for a long time, so I'll check the Calcutta as well.
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Honestly, if I actually targeted bull reds, I would probably use a different rod than for cobia. Spinning reel is what you need for cobia as you will be doing a lot of sight fishing which involves dropping the bait maybe 30 times on the fish's nose before he decides it's worth eating. You usually want the bail open while doing so, which allows him to take the bait and turn for a run before you flip the bail closed. As for bull reds, you'll probably be doing more casting or soaking bait, where a baitcaster is more ideal. If you want something for both, I would absolutely go with a strong spinning reel.
Can someone explain this a bit more? What makes a spinning reel better to "drop 30 times"? I'm not opposed to the idea, I'm just not very familiar with spinning reels and new to cobia fishing.
Also a lot of big striper up here, so I might could use this rig for that as well.
thanks again
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:32 am to GeekedUp
When that big lipped cobia is only a few feet away from your rod tip and you get all excited that bait caster is going to end up backlashed.
You never know when and where a cobia will show. Basically have to be able to cast, flip, or pitch a bait from the worst possible vantage point of the boat in the most contorted way.
Now if your fishing the beach for cobia it might be different but on the platforms they only show up when you have something in both hands and rod on the other side the boat.
You never know when and where a cobia will show. Basically have to be able to cast, flip, or pitch a bait from the worst possible vantage point of the boat in the most contorted way.
Now if your fishing the beach for cobia it might be different but on the platforms they only show up when you have something in both hands and rod on the other side the boat.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:27 am to snapper26
It's really not all that hard to do, hell I've had lemonfish come up next to the boat and dropped a 50W in its face with a trolling bait and landed it. Its all what one is comfortable with.
I personally hate spin gear, but I could see how and why others would prefer it.
I personally hate spin gear, but I could see how and why others would prefer it.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:56 am to GeekedUp
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Can someone explain this a bit more? What makes a spinning reel better to "drop 30 times"? I'm not opposed to the idea, I'm just not very familiar with spinning reels and new to cobia fishing.
Sometimes you'll drop it. Sometimes you'll flip it. Sometimes you'll cast it. It just reduces your chances of a backlash. Also, being able to leave the bail open helps a bunch in allowing the fish to grab the bait and get the hook while it swims away. A lot of the time, they'll just kind of put their lips on the bait at first. If they go to swim away, they often don't have the hook and the tension will pull it out of their mouth.
With a spinner, you just open the bail and let it swim away a little bit while it actually eats the bait. Then you flip the bail and he hooks himself.
I also like the spinner for mangroves. It's just easier to flip the bait up into the rig and let if float out naturally with the bail open. When a mangrove grabs the bait, it usually hauls arse immediately, which would cause many backlashes if you truly free-lined a baitcaster.
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