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Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
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I’ll stick with my old 24’ kenner, I can accidentally hit shite with it and not cry like a little girl like I would if I scratched the paint on a 120k inshore boat.




Makes perfect sense to me. I surely don't have a 120k boat either. (but not gonna say I've never cried before)


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
Than anything over 24' is getting too big IMO. Mine is a hair under 24 and it's a bitch at many fresh water boat launches and a bitch to maneuver around in the trees. I still use it for bass and perch jerking, but it's a spectacular speck boat that I catch snapper with on good days.

My thing with these huge bay boats is that no matter what, it's still a low deadrise bayboat and you're still only going to poke your nose out on a good day. A big bay boat will handle a rough bay chop better than a small one but it is still a bay boat. On the days you can comfortably take that 28 bluewave or 26 blackjack out 40 miles, you could take a 21' pathfinder out just as well. Neither one will sink in 3's but both will beat you to death.

Point I'm trying to make is that if you're goal is to do something beyond 20 mile snapper on a good day and you still want to be able to bass fish with it, well good luck getting around the spillway in your 34 venture. If the biggest water on your mind is snapper at 20 miles on a pretty day, you can do that in just about any well built bay boat over 21'
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Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
Yes, if his comment about his range being perch jerkin to snapper was serious, a huge bay boat isn't going to be good at the bottom end unless you only perch jerk open waterways like a river.
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
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Than anything over 24' is getting too big IMO


I tend to agree with you - yes, there are dudes trailering big boats, but that is a lot of work/gas/risk/logistics to do on anything like a regular basis. 24' is the biggest boat I would regularly trailer. Anything bigger is staying wet 365.


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
yellowfin
everglades
caymas
bw
robalo


If whatever you buy comes with a mercury make sure they throw in a free sea tow membership because you will absolutely need it with those piece of shite engines in salt water


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
Well said Downshift.


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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
I have a bit of a vendetta against these huge bay boats.

A boat with a 15* deadrise is not going out comfortably on a less than perfect day. I've been out on a 40' aluminum boat with a 15* bottom and it sucked arse in 2's.

You're spending a massive amount of money (true offshore CC money in some cases) for a boat that really doesn't do anything a 21' bay boat cant do. It still isn't going to safely do tuna or wahoo trips, it's too big to effectively perch jerk, and you still need a perfect day to get out of sight of land at all.

Those boats are specialized speck fishing boats that can do other inshore and offshore duties, but 28' of boat isnt getting you any farther out than 22' of boat is when the bottom is still flat.

Past 24' is just too much boat for south Louisiana IMO unless you're a guide or only fish areas that are suited to using that boat. If I didnt have access to an 18' bay boat whenever I want it, I definitely would not have the 24' I do now. I use the 18 footer far more often.


Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
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Past 24' is just too much boat for south Louisiana IMO unless you're a guide or only fish areas that are suited to using that boat.


That last or is pretty broad.

The bays in south LA aren't getting any smaller, nor or the islands that protect them.


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
Right and if youre primarily a speck fishermen these big bay boats make perfect sense if you have the money to burn. Mine is an older boat but for speck fishing I wouldnt trade it for anything smaller. When I do go try to pull snapper with it I always wish I had twins and a bigger boat no matter how slick it is. When I go after reds or or fresh water, I always wish it was a smaller more manageable boat.

I just think there are a bunch of them being sold to guys with grand ideas of fishing blue water one day and reds in the marsh the next and bringing the wife and kids drowning night crawlers the next. See stock picture in the OP of a single engine boat with a rack of tuna rigs behind the leaning post. Being 28' long does not make a blue water boat and if you try to use it as one, odds are you'll break the console or top off one day when mother nature decides it's time to make an old salt out of you.



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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
I totally agree.


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Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
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Blackjack 256 would be my first choice though


oops, wait.. didn't you say something about over 24' being too big??


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
In a class of 26-28' boats, absolutely not.

I would trade my boat for a 256 in a heartbeat. As I said earlier though, I have access to an 18' bay boat whenever I want it and I use it a whole lot. If the goal is sacaulait to snapper, you're better served buying a 21' boat and putting the savings towards rigging and gas.


Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
We pretty much agree. You should buy me a beer.

I'll let you ride in my big bay boat.

Life and weather has limited me to mostly river riding this year.



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You should buy me a beer.


Only if you buy me 2!


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
That's exactly how I feel.

I'd its blowing over 15-20 I ain't going fishing for anything, whether it's in a 60' sportfisher or a 22' Mako. I'm a fair weather fisherman.


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
This thread is making me sad about my not getting the

Tidewater 2500 Carolina Bay


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TBoy
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
Panga.


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lsu1919
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
That thing is nice. They have a typo tho, draft listed as 14’ vs 14”.



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Grassy1
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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
FYI, there's a BJ 256 on the Baton Rouge Craigslist


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re: If you had to, which CC bay boat would you choose?
for people saying you'll get your teeth kicked in, no matter what bay boat you're in, I don't really know. It depends on if you can be a reasonable person or not. I wanted to fish about 10 miles off last weekend, it was blowing 15 sustained from the SSE and we were going due S. My 6 year old and I woke up, launched our 24 pathfinder into honest 2-3s at 4s with white caps on everyone. We made 22 mph on the way out, caught 25 tripletail, he drove for more than half of them around the structure. did we run out at 40+, no, but we got to fish on the only day of the week that was going to work with both mine and his schedule. The big boats (especially upper tier, have great sea keeping ability and are fairly dry), there is not much comparison between a 22 bayboat and a 24+. Out of your choices, I'd go everglades, but if you opened it up to everything, I'd go 25/26 pfinder, 24 or the newer larger blazer, the 2800 blue wave, or a contender 25t. Honorable mention 29 ocean runner. My contender honestly did almost anything the pfinder will do except redfish in 15" or less and for that you can get a $2k flatboat.


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