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rmc
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Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2004
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
Is the trap non lethal? How do you trap starlings and house sparrows but not barn swallows? Please don’t take these questions the wrong way - I am genuinely curious.


Outdoorreb
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Member since Oct 2019
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
I don’t know what kind of trap OP is using, but it relies a lot on the type of bait you are using. Next thing is have you ever seen a swallow on the ground beside getting mud for a nest, or a baby that fell out of the nest?

That’s what I would think anyway.


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GeneralLee
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
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Is the trap non lethal? How do you trap starlings and house sparrows but not barn swallows?


It's a non lethal Troyer v top trap. See link below for a picture of it. LINK

So, if, like 99.5%+ of the time, it's an invasive sparrow or starling, I go in and kill the birds. If it's a native species, I open the trap and release the good birds. You are allowed incidental catch of native species. I have had an occasional robin or cowbird or woodpecker get in the trap, and then I release them. But never had a barn swallow go in. I use suet as bait and barn swallows eat insects, so makes no sense that a barn swallow would ever go in it.
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tigerinthebueche
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Erwinville, LA.
Member since Oct 2010
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
good for you! I have been waging jihad on starlings and sparrows for years. Sparrows are winged rats. Vile, disgusting creatures that make a huge mess and are INVASIVE. Starlings as well.

Keep up the good work and I hope the snitch gets hit by a bus, combine, or something similar and unforgiving.


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GeneralLee
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
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good for you! I have been waging jihad on starlings and sparrows for years. Sparrows are winged rats. Vile, disgusting creatures that make a huge mess and are INVASIVE. Starlings as well.


Yep, over the last 5 years, i've killed over 1,000 starlings and sparrows at our place. With our nestboxes, we now fledge over 75 purple martins, 50 tree swallows, 75 barn swallows, and 50 bluebirds each year. Those numbers would be way lower if I didn't manage the sparrows and starlings.


shell01
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Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
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Sparrows are winged rats. Vile, disgusting creatures that make a huge mess and are INVASIVE.


Just to clarify for others, HOUSE SPARROWS are invasive. All other species of sparrow you might come across are native and protected by the migratory bird act.


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Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
I had a cop in New Mexico take me to task for trapping pigeons in a public park. He said it wasn't illegal just looked bad....I asked to whom and he didn't have an answer. I had called the DNR and the park department to make certain it was alright and not only alright but the park department wanted to know how many of the damned things could I get rid of LOL. Much cheaper to catch them than buy live birds for training and they need to be taken out of public spaces as much as possible because they are some nasty critters....I packed it in that day but did return several times afterwards and never had any problems other than kids and folks wanting to know what I was doing and wanting to help! We could also shoot collared dove in town and in public spaces with air rifles....nothing like getting a young dog birdy with crippled collared doves flopping on the ground...but you do want to make sure no one is around 'cause flopping birds and dogs being set on 'em is definitely not a good look to a non-hunter. On top of that collared doves eat just like a mourning or white wing dove except it don't take as many of 'em to make a mess of 'em….


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tigerinthebueche
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Erwinville, LA.
Member since Oct 2010
24630 posts

re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
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Yep, over the last 5 years, i've killed over 1,000 starlings and sparrows at our place. With our nestboxes, we now fledge over 75 purple martins, 50 tree swallows, 75 barn swallows, and 50 bluebirds each year. Those numbers would be way lower if I didn't manage the sparrows and starlings.


I haven't had that type of success, but I'm using a much smaller trap. I mostly just shoot whatever starlings and sparrows I can in the open. When the sparrows get too numerous in the barn, I get some outside help from a professional. Otherwise, I catch them in the trap and dispatch them.

I'm envious of your success with the martins tho. I love the PMs, but its been a rough couple of seasons around my place. Hope they recover.


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geauxbrown
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South Carolina
Member since Oct 2006
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re: How pissed would you be? (Karen called the DNR)
What do you call the male version of a Karen?

Shot my buck on my lease in Illinois last season. As I’m dragging the deer out, I receive a phone call telling me my daughter has been involved in an auto accident.

I drop the guts out of the deer, put it on my hitch haul and head to the camp. There I take a shower, pack and hit the road. I drive all night and pull into my driveway around daylight the next morning.

I change clothes and head for the hospital where my daughter is.

Around 10 that morning my son takes my deer to the local processor. After returning from the hospital, I lay down on the living room couch to watch football and sleep. Thirty minutes later I’m awakened by a knock at my door. I open it to see my friendly, neighborhood warden asking to see my license and tags.

Long story short, he cuts me a ticket for illegally bringing a deer into the state from a known CWD carrying state.

I go back in the house and ask my son if he stopped somewhere when he took my deer to the processor. He replies, yes sir. I ask who he saw? He tells me an old “friend” I used to hunt with. It didn’t take long to confirm where the complaint came from.

Judge dropped the cost on the ticket to $200. It was originally $500. Yes, I fouled up but don’t think for a second folks won’t turn you in.


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