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re: How do local people feel about Troy Landry?

Posted on 2/2/18 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 4:05 pm to
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When was this and who was involved?
1847 with Michael Landrieu, Bobby Edwards, and Jean Paul Vitter
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56178 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 4:14 pm to
Just because a boat can go down it doesn’t mean yours can. Unless it is a defined navigable water way.

How you feel about illegals, should we just let em keep pouring in because we always have?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94789 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 4:15 pm to
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How you feel about illegals, should we just let em keep pouring in because we always have?
Posted by PawnMaster
Down Yonder
Member since Nov 2014
1649 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:59 pm to
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Its like owning land that adjoins a highway and you decide to cut your own private road that leads to the highway. Just because the landowner made a road on his property doesn't mean the general public gets to use it. Use the same logic on a man-made canal on private property because it was most likely dug out to be a water road for oil/gas


I understand that and agree with it but I think a lot people in this thread are talking about waterways that aren’t man made.
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:07 pm to
You will get shot over my way for fishing speckled trout over private oyster beds
Posted by 90Delmore
Member since Feb 2006
260 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:26 pm to
I’ve known Troy and his family for years. Coached his kids and nephews in little league and middle school. Lease a camp site from him. Always been a good guy. Contributes to the community.
I know some folks are pissed that he gated canals. If it’s legal it’s his business
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42436 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:31 pm to
FL only allows private waterways if it was man made
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:20 pm to
That's what all of this is about.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8577 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:37 pm to
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FL only allows private waterways if it was man made


So you haven’t understood what this thread was about the whole time you’ve been posting in it?!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94789 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:40 pm to
He also isn't entirely correct with his post.....

But I digress

Texas, frick yeh
Posted by cajunboatman
BR
Member since Dec 2012
162 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:42 pm to
No way my conscience could handle the fact that I took something away from my fellow sportsmen that they have had their whole lives.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Absolutely no way i would mess with him. The way he manhandles 1500 lb gators shows that old man strength is real
A gator on a line is nombig deal. I once brought a girl I was dating to run gator lines with us and she held her own.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:30 am to
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SO in your opinion you can go anywhere there is water on anyone's property? You can go duck hunt on anyone's marsh?



Yes, if I can get there by boat and don’t have to get out of the boat.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:58 am to
Why do you have such a fricked up notion of trespassing? Why don't you feel the same way about your side by side?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8577 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:59 am to
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Yes, if I can get there by boat and don’t have to get out of the boat.


Simply put, that's not the way it works.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:18 am to
Nope, it is not. However, my opinion is no one should own the water unless it is landlocked.

I don’t have a side by side or a 4 wheeler nor do I see your point.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94789 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:32 am to
He feels the same way myself and Texas does

Not exactly a "fricked up way of thinking."

I like to think of it as "a common sense, non louisiana retarded way" of thinking
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42436 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:52 am to
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That's right. The State Land Office must look back at maps from 1812 to determine if a waterway or waterbody was navigable enough to float commercial boats two centuries ago. For anglers, that's problematic because there weren't exactly a whole lot of satellites sending down aerial photographs of the marsh in 1812. Cartographers back then labeled major waterbodies and thoroughfares, and everything else they referred to as "wastelands." These "wastelands" were pock-marked with lakes and ponds and sliced with bayous and trenasses, but if they weren't relevant to commerce, they weren't mapped by the cartographers. Over the years, the wastelands have been purchased by individuals and corporations, and today, much of the Louisiana coast is privately owned. That includes the tidal waters that flow through and around the marshes. In every other coastal American state, tidal waters belong to the public, and anglers are within their legal rights to go wherever the tide takes them. In Louisiana, however, courts have ruled that landowners may claim even the tidal waters adjacent to their marshes. That's because of the outfall of a case that didn't even originate in Louisiana. In Phillips Petroleum Co. v. Mississippi, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a 5-3 decision that ownership of lands subject to the Public Trust Doctrine includes all tidal lands. In Louisiana, the Public Trust Doctrine states that "Louisiana claims the beds and bottoms of all navigable waters and the banks or shores of bays, arms of the sea, the Gulf of Mexico, and navigable lakes and declares the state's policy to be that these lands and water bottoms are public lands and shall be protected, administered, and conserved to best ensure full public navigation, fishery, recreation, and other interests." That would seem to have been a major victory for Louisiana's anglers, but as part of the ruling, the court said, "It has been long-established that the individual states have the authority to define the limits of lands held in public trust and to recognize private rights in such lands as they see fit." In 1992, the Louisiana Legislature surrendered what the Supreme Court ruled belonged to the citizenry by stating "... the Phillips decision neither reinvests the state, or a political subdivision thereof, with any ownership of such lands, nor does the state, or a political subdivision thereof, acquire any new ownership of such property." The Legislature's action was solidified by a U.S. Court of Appeals ruling in 1995's Dardar v. Lafourche Realty that tidelands that are not seashore or sea bottoms may be privately owned. Since then, some Louisiana landowners have staked their claims, employing local sheriff's departments to patrol their marshes, citing those who cross an unmarked line. Others have begun to charge anglers to access "their" tidal water. Those unfortunates who venture into the area without the appropriate windshield stickers on their boats are ticketed.


Seems to me Louisiana's laws on this are completely different than Florida.

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Since then, some Louisiana landowners have staked their claims, employing local sheriff's departments to patrol their marshes, citing those who cross an unmarked line. Others have begun to charge anglers to access "their" tidal water. Those unfortunates who venture into the area without the appropriate windshield stickers on their boats are ticketed.


Not sure how anyone could be ok with this.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 8:55 am
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42436 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:54 am to
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So you haven’t understood what this thread was about the whole time you’ve been posting in it?!


Troy Landry's private waterways were man made and created by him or his family?
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8577 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:00 am to
If you don’t know the topic of discussion it may be best to be quiet or educate yourself before speaking up.
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