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Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:53 am
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9145 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:53 am
Hey folks, thought I'd ask this here and get serious answers verses the OT where I will get a lot of sarcasm and BS.

I live in Houston (Tomball) and want to learn how to weld. Not as a career, but as a skill for personal use. I have pretty good carpentry and less than decent electrical skills, and I consider myself mechanically inclined.

Any suggestions on the best way to learn how to weld without taking a full blown community college class designed for guys wanting to make a living doing it?

I just want to build shite out of metal and it not fall apart.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25388 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:57 am to
Buy a basic 220v stick welder and start welding scrap metal. Maybe watch a few YouTube videos to learn a couple of tricks.

There’s no magic to it, you just have to get a feel for it and learn how the bead reacts
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38719 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:00 am to
It's really a take some classes, or grow up surrounded by it kind of thing. Someone can show you how to make two pieces of metal stick together, but it takes time and practice to get good.

I suck for reference, and I've been around it a lot in agriculture and the O&G industry. It's just not my specialty. I can blow the head off a rusty bolt with a cutting torch though.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Buy a basic 220v stick welder and start welding scrap metal. Maybe watch a few YouTube videos to learn a couple of tricks.

There’s no magic to it, you just have to get a feel for it and learn how the bead reacts



This.

And if you are going to get into tig welding take the proper precautions using thorium rods. The radioactive dust can be harmful. Just follow proper handling advice. Don't want to get that radioactive dust caught in your lungs emitting alpha particles constantly for the rest of your life.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9145 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:14 am to
quote:



Buy a basic 220v stick welder and start welding scrap metal. Maybe watch a few YouTube videos to learn a couple of tricks.

There’s no magic to it, you just have to get a feel for it and learn how the bead reacts


That was my basic plan, but wondering if there was a good resource in my area that I could use to speed up the process. I'm all about learning from someone's experience and avoiding all the errors of ignorance.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6837 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:18 am to
quote:

but wondering if there was a good resource in my area that I could use to speed up the process.


Find a machine you can afford then put out an advertisement asking for an experienced welder in your area to come work with you on a weekend for cash, beer, cigarettes, and powerball tickets.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27690 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:24 am to
Go by some small local welding shops and see what they think. Do you know anybody who does off-road stuff as a hobby? How about dirt track or any kind of racing?
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:32 am to
quote:

There’s no magic to it, you just have to get a feel for it and learn how the bead reacts


This, people can give you some tips or tricks, but can get some of those on you tube. Find as much cheap scrap metal as you can and practice. Change the settings to play around with your technique. Get a grinder with cutoff wheels. Cut cross sections to see how good your welds are, then adjust.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9145 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:34 am to
Thanks for all the good advice guys.

I appreciate it.
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
588 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Buy a basic 220v stick welder and start welding scrap metal.


This all day. I took a class when i was in highschool. Literally all they did was teach us how to turn on the machine. We welded on scrap pieces of plate for 1 hour every other day. First few days was welding on a flat surface on the table, then we had to hang the plate on the wall and weld vertical going up. After that we did side to side on the wall. Lastly,we did overhead. We were building bbq pits and deer stands after a few weeks lol.

After that i worked for a welding shop while i was going through college. Mig came naturally , and is way easier than stick. Stick is best to learn on in my opinion and everything falls in place after that.
Posted by nukedtbone
Bunkie La
Member since Jun 2007
156 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:50 am to
Years ago I took an after hrs class at Wharton College 6 weeks twice a week.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2925 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:01 am to
As others have said get a machine (harbour freight) will have everything you need to get started.
Machine
Angle grinder with cut off wheel and wire wheel
Some c clamps level and speed square
Hand full of 6010 rods
Welding hood
Sticker that says “welders get better penetration”
Buy some black pipe at Home Depot and build a firewood rack.
Use a one foot peice to learn out to make several welds (butt, circumferential, fillet ) once you feel like your weld doesn’t look like dirt dobbers have done it build your rack.
Don’t weld in flip flops or crocs trust me on this one!!
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9145 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:18 am to
quote:

As others have said get a machine (harbour freight) will have everything you need to get started.
Machine
Angle grinder with cut off wheel and wire wheel
Some c clamps level and speed square
Hand full of 6010 rods
Welding hood
Sticker that says “welders get better penetration”
Buy some black pipe at Home Depot and build a firewood rack.
Use a one foot peice to learn out to make several welds (butt, circumferential, fillet ) once you feel like your weld doesn’t look like dirt dobbers have done it build your rack.
Don’t weld in flip flops or crocs trust me on this one!!


OK, this is gold
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Don’t weld in flip flops or crocs


Psh.

I done welded all kinds of shite in short pants and a t shirt and no shoes. Wife still gets pissed at me for making a new shirt look like somebody shot me with fine shot.
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
883 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:38 am to
quote:

There’s no magic to it, you just have to get a feel for it and learn how the bead reacts


This.
I took a class in high school. As already mentioned, it was pretty much:
-Here is your station and machine
-weld this scrap together in this position like this
-repeat until pretty and go to next position

It was not going to be my career so I did not care about passing Xray or other test. I just wanted make metal stick together. So I quit the class. My time and money was better spent buying my own machine and learning myself.

I bought a used Lincoln stick machine and began welding scrap together at home in my spare time. After awhile I was very comfortable with it but it wasn't the best for my small jobs specially ones that required thinner metal to be welded. I then bought a cheap wire fed flux core Lincoln from home depot. It came naturally because I started with a stick machine. I just had to learn how to maintain it, really. After awhile, I sold that machine because I wanted to move to a mig setup with gas to get away from the flux core. I then bought bought a Millermatic MVP 211, used, and already setup on gas. To this day, it is my go to for most all projects. The only time I really use my old Lincoln stick machine is when I am repairing farm equipment are welding old rusty crap.

To me, everyone welds differently. I have taught some and have watched many others with hood. You just have to grab a machine and learn to work your bead. The method does not matter. Half moon, circle, push/pull etc. Just as long as the method is comfortable for you and gives you the desired result.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37436 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:41 am to
Mig welders are easier to learn. I have the green titanium one from harbor freight and it’s worked fine for a year. Obviously you can get a nicer brand if you want. To get a gas bottle refilled is only 20-30 bucks

A stick welder is good if you plan on welding thicker plate and heavy fab. For just general use and building stuff from pipe, square tubing and small plate I’d honestly just buy a mig

Always weld in a long sleeve or you’ll give yourself a nasty sunburn
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:13 am to
[quote]Mig welders are easier to learn[/quote

Which is why everyone should learn first with 6010 stick IMO. A mig machine is like a glue gun after you get good at that.

It depends what you need though. A guy who is making farm repairs will be very well served with a cheap AC stick machine and a big arse box of 6011 rods. A guy building little odds and ends from new clean metal should have a mig machine

I have a good bit of stuff and probably still go through 6010s as fast as anything else. Its so damn handy for quick repairs.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:20 am to
Yeah we’ve got an old cracker box stick welder and a newer small Lincoln mig. Mig gets way more use
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7161 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:02 pm to
there is a place called the Maker Barn not too far from you. they have all the equipment you would need and a good group of people that would probably help you out and classes as well. I am a member there for the woodworking equipment.

they have a message board app that has all sorts of people helping others and scheduling days for classes.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1705 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:24 pm to
25 years experience welding here- major major steel fab and repair work on pretty large machines all over the world. And I TIG aluminum as a hobby. And it’s pretty.

DO NOT start with a cheap arse stick machine.

Shame on anyone suggesting that.

Why in the world do you want to punish this guy?

“Oh, I’m captain badass wannnabe pipeliner you must know how to stick to be a real welder.”

bullshite.

There are absolutely ZERO pieces of mobile equipment that weren’t built in the last 30 plus years that weren’t done with some form of MIG welding.

To all of you suggesting stick, that’s like telling the guy to start bow hunting with a recurve- but we all know half of y’all get out of your wheelchairs and get in your climber to use a crossbow.

Dear friend- go get you a little 110V MIG machine- please not from Harbor Freight- Lincoln actually makes a decent one. Or Hobart (Miller) does as well. Run .030 wire in it- you’ll be able to make very satisfying welds in no time.

You will need gas- C25 mix (25% CO2/75%Argon) but they actually keep that at Tractor Supply now (even though they suck) but it makes the gas part very easy.

And- You Tube is your friend.

Best advice my first boss gave me at 19 years old “ When it sounds like frying fish, you’ve got it down pat”
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