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Holding a zero from one season to the next…
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:44 am
Pretty new to firearm ownership over the last two years. I’ve gotten some ARs set up with an LVPO and one with a red dot and have had a great time using them at the range.
Last year was really my first year getting them all set up and sited in and was doing OK at 100 yards from a seated position with sand bags.
Just went to the range for the first time this winter and all of my zeros were way off (like 5-6”) even at 10 yards but from a standing position. I did move recently but is that normal for your scopes to lose their zero with time even if not used? I did move so maybe they got banged around in the move?
It’s a holosun red dot and a bushnell AR LVPO. Both in the $300 range. So not the most expensive glass out there but I don’t think their shite tier either. Granted I wasn’t shooting in quite the controlled environment I was last year when I was nailing stuff at 100 yards. I just thought at 10 yards even firing from standing I should’ve been more accurate.
Last year was really my first year getting them all set up and sited in and was doing OK at 100 yards from a seated position with sand bags.
Just went to the range for the first time this winter and all of my zeros were way off (like 5-6”) even at 10 yards but from a standing position. I did move recently but is that normal for your scopes to lose their zero with time even if not used? I did move so maybe they got banged around in the move?
It’s a holosun red dot and a bushnell AR LVPO. Both in the $300 range. So not the most expensive glass out there but I don’t think their shite tier either. Granted I wasn’t shooting in quite the controlled environment I was last year when I was nailing stuff at 100 yards. I just thought at 10 yards even firing from standing I should’ve been more accurate.
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:51 am to jlovel7
Same ammo?
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:03 am to jlovel7
I mean depends on alota things. Ive had guns i put in the safe from one year to next and be off. Nothing crazy, but not ideal. And ive had guns that are fine. I an very picky about how my gun is "perfect" to hunt with though.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:26 am to jlovel7
I don’t typically have any issues if I’m using the same ammo from the year before.
It’s always a good idea to check before hunting because I had a rifle that the gun maker over tightened the base screws and they broke off after so many shots.
It’s always a good idea to check before hunting because I had a rifle that the gun maker over tightened the base screws and they broke off after so many shots.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:56 am to jlovel7
5-6” at 10 yards?? Yeah something is wayyyy off.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:28 am to turkish
With all due respect that almost sounds like user error
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:32 am to jlovel7
Sounds like during your move, optic mounting screws and hardware may have rattled loose
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:33 am to TheRouxGuru
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With all due respect that almost sounds like user error
We were shooting standing without any kind of rest so definitely a big contributor. It just seemed so extreme I was curious about scopes getting out of alignment with enough time passing and if that was a typical thing with firearm ownership.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 11:40 am to jlovel7
Shouldn’t ever be an issue if everything was installed and torqued properly. I’ve had the same scope on my primary deer rifle for 15 years and never adjusted it.
I did shoot it to make sure it was still “on” after it got run over, but that’s another story. And it was still dead on.
I did shoot it to make sure it was still “on” after it got run over, but that’s another story. And it was still dead on.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:00 pm to jlovel7
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zeros were way off (like 5-6”)
Thats VERY bad. Are you sure they were properly installed? Semi auto rifles can be pretty hard on scopes because they vibrate and hammer around, but those scopes should be able to handle it.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:17 pm to jlovel7
User error. Incorrect installation. Getting knocked around when installed incorrectly. Even cheap glass will hold zero better than that.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:28 pm to jlovel7
Spend $40-$50 on a Wheeler torque screwdriver. Things don’t shift sitting in a safe and they shouldn’t shift that much even if you’re abusing them.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:20 pm to jlovel7
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Pretty new to firearm ownership over the last two years.
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Just went to the range for the first time this winter and all of my zeros were way off (like 5-6”) even at 10 yards but from a standing position.
Only very experienced shooter can even come close to shooting as good standing as using a sand bag as a rest.
IMO, you can not make any conclusion on if the sights are good or bad when shooting in a standing position.
Don't do anything to the gun sights until you shoot some using a gun rest. When sighting in a gun, your body need to be well rested or you body muscles will not hole the rifle steady.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 8:43 am to jlovel7
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was doing OK at 100 yards
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zeros were way off (like 5-6”) even at 10 yards
First, you haven't shot in a year. Next, if you zeroed at 100, you're going to be low at 10. Add that you went from sitting with bags to standing and that's probably your issue. Go to the range and shoot 100 sitting with bags and check results.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 4:29 pm to Putty
the ten years I was in a west texas deer club, the worst thing that a hunters guest could do is show up and ask to shoot a few rounds to check their gun. Use the gun range, become one with the scoping, and be ready to show up at the camp confident you will hit what you pull the trigger on. A wounded animal is the pits
Posted on 11/28/22 at 5:47 pm to Trevaylin
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the worst thing that a hunters guest could do is show up and ask to shoot a few rounds to check their gun
Wtf??? Why? Would you prefer someone travel far and not check their zero before hunting your place? Wandering zeros is not uncommon at all.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
yep!! do your prep work. Too many dics show up with a borrowed gun they know nothing about. A hard case will transport your piece from the gun range to the lease in fine condition. Wandering zeros??? Kinda like a dic??
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:06 pm to gerald65
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Only very experienced shooter can even come close to shooting as good standing as using a sand bag as a rest.
Agreed. I'm not a lifetime hunter but not new with it either, and I just noticed this year that I am pulling a little left with one particular gun. I had to find a way to stabilize at the range to confirm that, but I'm glad I did vs. just turning the dial on the scope.
That said, I think my really old arse rifle isn't quite consistent (different gun than the above). Lots of factors.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:45 pm to Trevaylin
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Wandering zeros???
You've NEVER had to rezero any rifle ever?
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