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Gulf Fisherman Question
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:13 pm
I was talking with some charter boat guys today and they are concerned with fishing in central gulf area and what maybe some residual impact from BP spill. Research labs guys are studying this issue and noncommittal. Apparently, Panama City and eastern Texas are on fire.
I noticed about a month ago fishing from Mississippi to Destin seemed to go to shite but assumed just Summer shite.
They are concerned that the phyto plankton maybe gone, or some new bacteria maybe depleting oxygen in the water.
They discribe pattern of bait fish moving around much more than normal, as if they can’t find the plankton etc they feed upon, and lack of big schools of bait, as well as a absence of big schools of redfish that have been around for decades. This are guys fishing everyday not just weekends.
Anyone else seeing anything like this ?
I noticed about a month ago fishing from Mississippi to Destin seemed to go to shite but assumed just Summer shite.
They are concerned that the phyto plankton maybe gone, or some new bacteria maybe depleting oxygen in the water.
They discribe pattern of bait fish moving around much more than normal, as if they can’t find the plankton etc they feed upon, and lack of big schools of bait, as well as a absence of big schools of redfish that have been around for decades. This are guys fishing everyday not just weekends.
Anyone else seeing anything like this ?
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:23 pm to TutHillTiger
The trout fishing has definitely suffered
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:24 pm to TutHillTiger
are talking about open gulf, around rigs/rips/shrimp boats, or inshore? my trout fishing this summer has been subpar.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:28 pm to TutHillTiger
Have not really noticed it and I fish around 100 days a year. Snapper were easy of course when it was open. Been catching plenty flounder and trout most trips. Really the only fish I have not caught at least as many as usual since the spill have been ground mullet. The southern kingfish variety not gulf kingfish.....no clue if it has anything to do with the spill or not but pre-spill used to fill ice chests all march and april but since just have not really got on them like we used to. Still catch a bunch but have only really filled a box with em a few times since the spill and been way more white trout than ground mullet when that used to be the opposite at least in March and April till the trout would usually take over around May.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:58 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:im just assuming this is the charter boats "Too much rain, too little rain" argument like crawfishermen.
I was talking with some charter boat guys today and they are concerned with fishing in central gulf area and what maybe some residual impact from BP spill. Research labs guys are studying this issue and noncommittal. Apparently, Panama City and eastern Texas are on fire.
Charter Guys just want more share of the quota and want the Rec guys out. Which was evident with their stance on, i think it was, Amendment 43. When i heard Tomeny say "We are divorced, idk why we would want to go back", i wanted to punch that crooked mofo in the face.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:03 pm to TutHillTiger
Conditions change every year, and bigger trends occur every 5 years or so. Just because you had success in one area last year or two years ago does not always hold true for the future. A lot of variables.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:42 pm to CarRamrod
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Charter Guys just want more share of the quota and want the Rec guys out.
Not sure if I understand what you are ranting about here. Charters operate under the same rules as recreational fishermen do. Are you talking about commercial fishermen as opposed the guides when you say charter?
And even commercials are pretty restricted.
quote:
• You must have a Spotted Seatrout Permit ($100 resident, $400 nonresident) to harvest and sell spotted seatrout (plus other commercial fishing and gear licenses). To qualify, you must have had a Saltwater Gill Net License during any two years from 1993 to 1995 and provide state and federal income tax returns (including Schedule C of the federal 1040 form) demonstrating more than 50% of your earned income came from the capture and sale of seafood in at least two years from 1993 to 1995. Saltwater guides may not obtain a Spotted Seatrout Permit.
• You may only use commercial rod-and-reel gear to harvest spotted seatrout. No vessel carrying or fishing a gill, hoop, trammel, or seine net may have spotted seatrout aboard.
• All on board a vessel commercially fishing spotted seatrout must be a licensed commercial fishermen.
• No commercial harvest of spotted seatrout in Louisiana waters west of the Mermentau River.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:42 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
Charter Guys just want more share of the quota and want the Rec guys out.
That’s not true of charter guys.
True of commercial fisherman though
They are not the same
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:07 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
quote:no in the last year of federal management. The Rec quota was split between charter and rec. and the charter season was longer. Plus im talking about snapper not trout.
Charters operate under the same rules as recreational fishermen do.
quote:when i say charters im referring to head boats. and they are no better than commercial guys.
That’s not true of charter guys.
True of commercial fisherman though
They are not the same
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:18 pm to CarRamrod
I think tHe OP is just trying to ask if everyone along the gulf has seen an “off” season of fishing. He’s not trying to start a pissing war between commercial and recreational. I guess maybe he should have said guides? Those who get paid to take people fishing. They may still be worrying about the effects of the oil spill on entire life cycle of fish.
But, yes.. this has been a down year for trout.
But, yes.. this has been a down year for trout.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:36 pm to ct4lsu
Been a reallllly rough year for yellowfin so far. I just think it's an off year though. Highly doubt it's a consequence of BP spill
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:12 pm to TutHillTiger
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as well as a absence of big schools of redfish that have been around for decades.
Huh? I've seen tons of pics/videos of guides with their whole boat bowed up on schooling reds for weeks and I've seen them crashing everywhere. They were going nuts on bait in BSL last night. I think it's been a great year of inshore fishing this year. I have no clue about the offshore.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:00 pm to TutHillTiger
People have killed trout for the last 2 years, but yet somehow find it weird that this year is a tad off whenever we had TWO occurances of freezing weather/snow.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:32 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
I believe the freezes may have impacted the trout. But that doesn’t answer the tuna problem. Perhaps overfishing
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:09 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
Trout fishing has been pretty good in MS this year, up until relatively recently.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:58 pm to ct4lsu
quote:
But, yes.. this has been a down year for trout
Idk, I fish mostly out of Cocodrie and did fairly well every time out with no skunk trips.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:06 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
There were 4 below freezing fronts last year in South LA, one of which went 4 straight days below.
People were ticketed for having over the possession limit of trout w/o even having a rod and reel in the boat.
The spawn was late and it seems for all Gulf species thus far. I have a radar image showing snow over the barrier islands.
I normally see turtles at the beach mid summer, but saw my first ones this past wknd
People were ticketed for having over the possession limit of trout w/o even having a rod and reel in the boat.
The spawn was late and it seems for all Gulf species thus far. I have a radar image showing snow over the barrier islands.
I normally see turtles at the beach mid summer, but saw my first ones this past wknd
Posted on 8/28/18 at 8:52 am to TutHillTiger
Some dudes can’t catch fish so they still blaming BP? Lol
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:43 am to TutHillTiger
I believe overfishing has to do with the majority of it.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:21 am to JAB528
quote:
I believe overfishing has to do with the majority of it
In the summer people have a tendency to fish the well known hot spots that get hit heavily every year. Depending on the area the fish can be extremely sensitive to increased boat traffic and activity.
*** Its also the very hottest time of the year and hard fishing. Of course the charter guys are bitching. Changing bait all day with a bunch of guys slinging corks around then cleaning fish and washing the boat afterwards makes for a long arse day.
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