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Getting into the prepping mindset

Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2062 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:36 pm
I got caught with my pants down during this deep freeze in Texas, and I don't want that to happen again. As a first responder, I should have known better in the first place. I guess the fact that I'm typically on the other side of the situations, working evacuations/rescues/fire crews, that I never gave much thought to having my own home prepared or my own bags packed. So I have a couple of questions.

What do you guys do to store/inventory your supplies to know what you have and where you have it?

What do you have that's packed and ready to go in case of evacuation(flooding/wildfire) versus a shelter in place situation like the winter storm?
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16882 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:55 pm to
Whole house automatic generator
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2049 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:22 am to
One of the things I do is pack full with supplies these plastic tubs that were originally tubs for Utz Pork Rinds we get from Costco. I pack them full of stuff like batteries, flashlights, cheap tools, knives, emergency blankets, chapsticks, hand sanitizer, ponchos, duct-tape, lighters, rope etc etc. Anything small and prepped-esque. Each one has like $100 worth of stuff in them. Each have a theme like an Ammo one full of shotgun shells, .22, 556 & 9mm ammo or a 1st aid tub that is stuffed with things like all types of bandaids & bandages, hydrogen peroxide, Neosporin, etc etc etc. I have a medical tub as well full of any generic medicine you can think of like Advil, Tylenol, Pepto, Tums, Imodium Ad, Benadryl, children’s medicine, sunscreen, aloe, etc etc. I literally walked the medicine isle at Kroger and grabbed off the shelf any random medicine you could think of.

I have these tubs scattered throughout the house in case I ever may need something, I know I have a bin full of things that can help me.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11492 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:04 am to
Prep with what you use in everyday life. People are running out of toilet paper and food, that is ridiculous.

We buy the double packs of OTC meds from Costco, keep one bottle, use the other. When we empty one bottle we buy again, adding another bottle to the stash.

I don't like canned pastas but my kids eat them all the time, we just buy a case of something every trip. We tend to buy twice as fast as the kids eat them. If it was my only option, I sure as hell would eat them.

I am getting a Berkley water filter after our move, we finally have a waterfront property, so unlimited water as long as we can make it drinking safe. Bonus: Getting catfish in the backyard.

Sure I have guns, ammo, generator, propane, gas, camp stoves, knives, etc. etc. but the most important things are what you use all the time. Also, honestly it is a PITA to keep gas as a prep. I think I am going to stop filling my cans and just rely on propane and gas from my boat to run the generator.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8355 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:04 am to
Watching all that go down I’m doing the same.

I’m “ok” for hurricanes but cold like that I’m lacking.

I always keep a spare, full propane tank for my grill and camp cooker. I nearly always keep around two smokes worth of firewood for my offset, and that is probably more than that. It can sub as a charcoal grill or use the wood for grilling. If the wood is wet, I keep an amount dry to get it going, and keep cotton balls covered in petroleum jelly that will burn long enough to build a fire. youtube link

We always keep a stupid amount of water around, ~5 cases for just 2 of us. Cycle through them so they are fresh.

As for generators, I keep about 20 gallons of gas and the generator full come hurricane season. Non-ethanol gas. Once November comes I’ll start dumping that in my truck, keeping 5 on standby. By May I’ll fill one 5 gallon at a time and keep going monthly until I’m full again. I run the generator with a load once a month. They don’t like to be set up for too long. It’s really better to run them with a load more often than not. I found out during Zeta I don’t run mine near as long as most people. Maybe 6 hrs a day to keep the fridge/freezer up and watch morning/evening news. Read the manual because you do need to change the oil after roughly 40-60hrs of running.

I’m getting a diamondback hd bed cover for my truck. Not only does it secure your bed but you can load up to 2,000lbs on top too, my truck’s payload capacity 3k, so that provides additional space if we’d ever need to load the generator/gas/ice chest/rifles/suitcases/chainsaws and bug out to the farm. shite is expensive but I see the need.

Of all the dumbass shite I do, I’ve learned to make pemmican. Basically tallow mixed with shredded jerky. I’ll make some for hurricane season and use it during hunting season, I may need to rethink that. But that is for extreme situations. It keeps a long time if properly stored. I go 75-25 protein to fat. but I may rework that. I always make tallow out of my brisket trimmings and use it for cooking weekly.

It’s more of a hobby my wife shakes her head at. Until a storm is coming and appreciates the time I spent getting things together and making shite work.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 6:22 am
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:13 am to
Water, beans, and rice is about all you need food wise.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
735 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:22 am to
I might get down voted, but if you plan to prep, it can't just be food, water, guns and ammo. You need to prepare your house as well, and to be honest, if you live in the suburbs your best bet is to make as many friends with your neighbors as you can without giving away how much you have. I've got a career criminal cousin, who's words always stuck with me. "If I want it, I'm going to take it. People have hid shite in their own living room to keep it away from me but people still need to sleep."
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:55 pm to
In my opinion, the very first thing you need to do is sit down and really think through possible scenarios. Are you prepping for a weather/natural disaster type of situation or are you prepping for a shite hits the fan type event? It is really easy to spend a ton of money on preps and not be prepared for much at all. I sat in thought about what is most likely to happen to me and mine in my location, of course in my case my #1 prep is for hurricanes and the after-effects. I make sure that my back-ups have backups and that I can survive comfortably for at least two weeks. I live on a few acres and have gardens and fruit trees so I tend to put quite a bit of food up either frozen, dehydrated, or home canned. I also can a good bit of meat to use as a quick meal or as a prep. My main concern is the availability of water. While it may be uncomfortable, you can go quite a long time without eating but 2-3 days with no water and you are either dead or damn near it so drinking water is #1. you can store water or locate a nearby source of surface water such as a pond or bayou. This water must be purified to drink but it is much easier to store 10lbs of pool shock powder to use to purify the water than to store large quantities of drinking water. With that said, I always keep 3-4 cases of .5 liter bottled water and at least 15 gallons (3 5 gal bottles ) of water for my water
cooler. If in an emergency I need more than that then I will use the pool shock to purify surface water. To me, the key thing is to stock up on things you ordinarily use to the point where you have at least 3 months worth of food and other consumables like toilet paper, paper towels, OTC medications, etc.

I am not prepping for a nuclear winter, zombie apocalypse, or some other doomsday scenario, I am prepped for things that have a much higher chance of actually happening like hurricanes, freezes, loss of power for an extended time, or anything else that would cause things to not function as normal.

like I said at the outset of this post. Spend some time thinking through different scenarios and what you need to get through each one. Then prep with those things in mind and stock up on things that you already use.

edit to add:
many of my preps are not so much survival items but comfort items. While I can live on beans and rice if necessary, I much prefer a diverse diet so I stock accordingly. I wouldn't die if I didn't have generators to run my central A/C but it sure as hell is more comfortable. Keep in mind that comfort is very important when going through a disaster of some sort. I don't have any kids at home but I prep like both of them and their spouses will be here during the emergency simply because it is much easier for me to prep than for them to do it. In my opinion, it is best to learn as many old skills as you can because a disaster can destroy your preps quickly but it cannot take away your knowledge and skills. I started trying to learn the old ways many years ago and I still learn something new almost every day. I know how to put food up for long-term storage, I know how to make various types of smoked sausage and things like jerky, pemmican, etc. I know how to grow a garden and I keep something growing year-round, Right this moment, I could go pick greens, cabbage, beets, and carrots from my garden and with a bit of meat and foraged foods such as fish from the bayou behind my house, berries in the spring, small game such as rabbit, coon, nutria, various birds, etc. If you go hungry in south Louisiana it is your own damn fault there is too much available year-round to not have something to eat.
So old skills and survival skills go a long way in helping you survive a disaster.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:58 pm to
And if you’re eating beans and rice....you need a lot of water
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1308 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

It is really easy to spend a ton of money on preps and not be prepared for much at all.


This is fantastically true. I think what many people also overlook is the importance of gaining not just stuff, but experience. You'll buy all kinds of crap you don't need and it won't do you any good when you do need it if you're not doing anything more than a thought exercise. If you live an urban/suburban type life where these skills aren't everyday chores then you need to make an effort to get outside. Camp in the desert. Camp in the snow. Camp in the rain. Be uncomfortable. Learn how to use what you have and thrive in what used to make you uncomfortable.

A good example is that I saw plenty of posts where people described being surprised at how much water they "needed" to use for cooking and cleaning. Most didn't need that much, they'd just never been in a situation where they needed to reduce their consumption and had little idea how to do it.

Also, if you call a repairman every time something minor breaks, stop doing that. Use it as an opportunity to learn. You won't (and don't need to) become a general contractor overnight, but you'll slowly build a collection of knowledge, tools, and spare parts that will come in handy when everyone is trying to call a repair man at the same time.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2062 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Each have a theme


I like this. The bins are probably easily stacked and if I need to load and go, I'll know exactly what I'm grabbing. Excellent idea that I'm gonna implement.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2062 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I am not prepping for a nuclear winter, zombie apocalypse, or some other doomsday scenario, I am prepped for things that have a much higher chance of actually happening like hurricanes, freezes, loss of power for an extended time, or anything else that would cause things to not function as normal.


I read a pretty good article that used an 80/20 rule. 20% of preps will get you through 80% of the situations. I'm shooting for most-likely scenarios first, like flooding or wildfires, that are more common here. The COVID lockdowns didn't really affect any of my lines of work(FD and electrical contracting) but that and the freeze are examples of shelter-in-place events I'd like my home to be prepped for. However, I want things stored and organized so it doesn't look like a hoarder lives here, and I'd also like to be able to back a truck up to my garage and know what I'm grabbing and about how far that will get me if I need to find shelter somewhere else. COVID and the freeze might be shelter-in-place, but we have major wildfires nearly every summer. I've helped in numerous mass evacuations or fought fires in the wildland urban interface where its just a mass scramble for the residents to get out.

I have a wildland bag with clean, dry clothes and socks, extra PPE, med/IFAK supplies because you never know how far away the ambulance will be, headlamps/flashlights/batteries, water and snacks, TP, flares, compass and whistle, write in the rain pads, paracord, multitool, Kessler tool, NRPG, and my radio. There is not very much I haven't had to use at some point. But that's just one bag to keep up with and restock. I generally just go through it at the beginning of the fire season and check to see if I forgot to restock something, check my batteries, and make sure the meds aren't expired.

How do you guys keep track of things like that on a larger scale? I'm thinking about making a sheet for every bin/container for inventory. Is that a waste of time?
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12133 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:09 pm to
I’m not a huge prepper. My strategy is to have enough to 3 months at my house.

Beans and Rice. Wal Mart has good deals of 20 pound bags of rice for 18 dollars.

Two large cans of butter flavored Crisco for fat to put in the beans and rice.

I have a ton of wood on my property and a fireplace so I bought a nice hand saw.

I bought a clean plastic trash can to hold water.

A tarp to collect rain and a water filter that works for 1,000 gallons.

A few lighters and a big jug of Vaseline and cotton balls to start a fire.

Spices.

Guns and ammo.

My plan is for my family to be ok for 3 months then access the situation.

Not great but better than nothing.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13474 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:45 pm to
Serious preppers don’t discuss their preps.

You don’t want to be a target for when the SHTF.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2062 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Serious preppers don’t discuss their preps.

You don’t want to be a target for when the SHTF.


I had something to let them know I'm not a soft target. Too bad I lost it all in that boating accident...
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13762 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

Serious preppers don’t discuss their preps.

You don’t want to be a target for when the SHTF
. No shite. I had a 50gallon trash can full for flush water last week that I didn’t want my unprepared neighbor to see.
Posted by aileron
H-Town
Member since Apr 2018
236 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Serious preppers don’t discuss their preps. You don’t want to be a target for when the SHTF.


Google "gray man theory"
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:19 pm to
Generator.

Freeze dried food from ready meals.

Get a inflatable pool from target/Walmart. Blow it up in garage on the flat smooth concrete for no punctures and no freezing. Store it in climate control or the plastic will break down. At $30 you can replace every couple years. Hold 300 gallons of water. For flushing toilets / dishes.

Drinking water.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 8:21 pm
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3529 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:54 pm to
Lots of good info given and I would look on YouTube, online, etc. where there are several of the prepper community that will give good advice. Some more hard core than others but you can find those in your range or comfort zone.

Another important thing is to have a support group of likeminded individuals close by so you can help each other. Don't just stockpile for yourself but also put away some items that others might need as well. Talk with them, make plans for potential disaster situations, not just the proverbial "civil war" or zombie apocalypse but natural disasters, economic downturns, etc.

You are more capable than you think and as someone said, if you don't know how to fix and repair things, start learning. You'll figure it out and that knowledge will be more valuable than many of the prepper items you will purchase.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2062 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Google "gray man theory"


quote:

Another important thing is to have a support group of likeminded individuals close by so you can help each other.


Vastly different viewpoints here. I'm not sure I'm down for living my life as someone I'm not. It's in my DNA to help people, and it's usually during the worst days/moments of their lives. I might survive by not helping a neighbor, but I don't know if I could live with myself afterward.

Plus, this seems far more plausible for a larger, urban setting. How could it be adapted for an "everybody knows everybody" area?

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