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Garden fertilizer questions...

Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:04 am
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:04 am
I've got 2 above ground garden boxes & was doing some early spring work on them. I've got them weeded,cleaned, & tilled over. I'm looking to spread some fertilizer granules prior to planting & was wondering what would be the best "general" fertilizer to use. Before I got lazy & had a row garden, I always just went with 8.8.8 & that worked well. any suggestions? I'll be painting tomatoes, bell peppers, & cucumbers in one bed. The other bed will have cucumbers, beans/peas, eggplants, & squash &/or zucchini. TIA
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:05 am to
Cow shite
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:13 am to
Chicken shite
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2951 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:13 am to
corn gluten meal. It will will fertilize and act as a pre-emergent for weeds.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:20 am to
Any kind of compost should work. Because it's a raised box you'll need to continue fertilizing throughout the season.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:25 am to
I use a 9-12-12 tomato and vegetable fertilizer from wal-mart.

It works great.

This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 11:26 am
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22804 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:28 pm to
If you put nitrogen in it now it will be wasted if you plant a week later. I don't see an advantage for fertilizing now.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:33 pm to
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Chicken shite


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Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5439 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:51 pm to
You can ammend the soil with any number of things, including everything that has been mentioned here. It will dilute over time.

To do it right, get a soil test and follow the instructions for ammending soil (most likely with Lime, nitrate, phosporous and potassium).

At this point, just add fertilizer when you plant (under the root ball) and side dress after the plant is established.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Because it's a raised box you'll need to continue fertilizing throughout the season.
Why is that?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

I use a 9-12-12 tomato and vegetable fertilizer from wal-mart.

It works great.
Maybe for tomatoes but cucumbers are heavy feeders. For them a complete 13-13-13 or 20-20-20 is recommended at planting then followed up with a tablespoon of 33-0-0 during bloom/fruit production.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:29 pm to
I would always use a 1-2-2 or 1-3-3 fertilizer. If you think you need nitrogen that is easy to add by itself.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:48 pm to
Nutrients will wash out more quickly than at ground level.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:10 pm to
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DonChowder
Nutrients will wash out more quickly than at ground level.
I guess we're not visualizing the same "raised box". My raised box is an extension OF the ground, really. Like a hill, sorta.


quote:

Nodust
I would always use a 1-2-2 or 1-3-3 fertilizer. If you think you need nitrogen that is easy to add by itself.
I neglect fertilizing mine so bad.

One poster mentioned having it tested. That's pretty sound advice imo. I wish I could trust those home soil test kits so I could take the guess work out.


Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22804 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:33 pm to
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I wish I could trust those home soil test kits so I could take the guess work out.


Soil testing is best on large scale farming. It can save big money by only putting out what you need. On a garden over fertilizing doesn't cost a ton and doesn't really hurt the plants until it gets to the point of burning the roots back.

LSU used to do test for cheap. I would be certain they still do. Once a year is plenty of testing unless major changes to soil profile is done.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:41 pm to
Yeah we used to send one off when we had farmland/pasture. It was only like 4 bucks back then.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22804 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:44 pm to
You have any luck with cucumbers?

Last years I grew some nice ones but they had a bitter iron taste. Not sure if its the soil, moisture, or variety. That was my first time growing cucumbers. I planted early girls.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13676 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:55 pm to
I did the soil test for the first time last year and applied as instructed, worst garden production I've had in years. Tilled alot under and added Triple 13 and the new plants took off.



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