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For Fellow CC'ers Out There...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:36 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:36 am
I just read this little tidbit and think it's amazing how well it puts CC in perspective, blowing out the anti-gun hogwash many of the naysayers spew.
Enjoy...
"Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force.
You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation, and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act."
Original Link (I know it's a ridiculous place to find this, but I stumbled on it)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111116130926AA7Ge77
Enjoy...
"Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force.
You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation, and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act."
Original Link (I know it's a ridiculous place to find this, but I stumbled on it)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111116130926AA7Ge77
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:50 am to bapple
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:21 am to bapple
Wow. That's really good stuff.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:26 am to CoastieGM
Bump
I posted this early as frick
I posted this early as frick
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:46 am to bapple
Good stuff.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:18 am to bapple
Totally agree!
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:36 am to bapple
Absolutely! I like when people ask what I am afraid of carrying a gun at all times. I love telling them nothing.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:45 am to bapple
quote:
I posted this early as frick
I hadn't yet gone to bed (in Alaska).
Was out on the hot date to the duck hole with wife that the OB bashed me about .
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:53 am to bapple
Very nice
Posted on 12/3/12 at 12:31 pm to bapple
Good read. I keep telling myself to get my cc license but just haven't done it yet.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:17 pm to bapple
quote:
Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
Don't reckon Bob Costas would understand this concept...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:23 pm to 4X4DEMON
quote:
Good read. I keep telling myself to get my cc license but just haven't done it yet.
You should sign up for a class as soon as you can. When I took it a year and a half ago, I had to book it a month or two in advance. Now with people losing their minds, I can't imagine how long the wait for a class is. I would imagine about 2-3 months.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:32 pm to bapple
When dawg23 sent out the email for his class that I took this past weekend, it filled up in about an hour or 2. He had an email list of everybody that had expressed interest in the class. He took the first 12 of us that replied. It was a very enjoyable and informative class. Even if a person isn't planning on getting the permit, the course is still good for learning situational awareness and deescalation skills.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:32 pm to bapple
Must be why I am still waiting on mine 
Feel like its been months since I dropped off my packet
Feel like its been months since I dropped off my packet
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:44 pm to RATeamWannabe
I'll be signing up for a class in either May or June.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 7:40 pm to RATeamWannabe
quote:
Must be why I am still waiting on mine
Feel like its been months since I dropped off my packet
Mine took a couple months to come in.
Patience, young grasshopper.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:29 pm to bapple
quote:
The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid.
Best line in the write up to me.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:37 pm to bapple
Easier said than done!
Wish someone would have told me about the digital prints BEFORE I turned the paperwork in
Wish someone would have told me about the digital prints BEFORE I turned the paperwork in
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:39 pm to RATeamWannabe
quote:wait,,, wait,,, whatu talkin' bout? I did the class last week and was gonna get printed later this week? am i missing sumptin?
digital prints BEFORE I turned the paperwork in
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:09 pm to Ole Geauxt
Go somewhere where thy do digital prints. They don't have the possibility of being smudged and rejected. Since you are down here, go by the LSP headquarters tomorrow and get it done.
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