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re: F-150 baws - 3.5 Eco vs. 5.0
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:50 am to PapaPogey
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:50 am to PapaPogey
I’ve only owned it for 2 months, but I am extremely satisfied with my 5.0 F150. One thing about the 5.0 is that I feel like I’m actually driving a truck. Not really sure how else to describe it. My previous truck was a 2006 Silverado with the 4.8L V8 and 4 speed transmission.
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:58 am to TheBoo
In the 18 stang the 5.0 is using high pressure injection and is rated at 460. I hope that finds its way to the F150
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:03 am to PillageUrVillage
I just traded in my 2012 with the 5.0 for a 2017 with the 5.0. I test drove the ecoboost, but didn't like how it cut off when I stopped. I understand that feature can be turned off, and I get that it has some green advantages, but I like the way the 5.0 sounds and I don't pay for my gas. 5.0 for me.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:13 am to upgrayedd
I was recently looking at the 2.7 and the 3.5 until my neighbors 2.7 blew up twice and my dads 3.5 doesn't live up to expectations. seems like the 3.5 also has lots of problems.
5.0 for me when I find one I like
5.0 for me when I find one I like
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:20 am to upgrayedd
I have a little north of 100k miles on a 2012 4x4 eco with 3.73's. The gas mileage was never what was advertised. I have 34x12.25" tires and a level on it now, so I'm not a really fair measure of what gas mileage should be. I will say that the mileage sucks towing.
I've never had any issues with the engine. Not a big fan of the other parts of the truck though. Leather is cheap, trim is cheap, random stuff breaks all the time, etc. I've heard the newer 150s have a lot of that stuff worked out, though.
If just based on the engine, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another ecoboost unless you're towing something really heavy, like a big offshore boat or bigger horse trailer. If you're pulling stuff like that, I'd imagine you could use a beefier rear end anyway.
I've never had any issues with the engine. Not a big fan of the other parts of the truck though. Leather is cheap, trim is cheap, random stuff breaks all the time, etc. I've heard the newer 150s have a lot of that stuff worked out, though.
If just based on the engine, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another ecoboost unless you're towing something really heavy, like a big offshore boat or bigger horse trailer. If you're pulling stuff like that, I'd imagine you could use a beefier rear end anyway.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:37 am to Catahoula20LSU
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What’s going to last longer? Something that goes 2,000 rpm or something that goes 3,500 rpm with more moving parts.
This is what pushed me to a 5.0 with my 17.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:39 am to Catahoula20LSU
This is the reason I went with the 5.0. something that runs hotter will not last longer.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:43 am to texag7
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I've heard Ford is releasing a diesel later this year for the f150
Yes in V6 model. They haven't come out and said it but the ram 1500, 3.0L. ecodiesel has been a hit. Upper 20's in mpg's with 7,000-9,000lbs towing. The only complaints I've read was the lack of payload. I imagine ford is trying to cut into that market.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:43 am to upgrayedd
SO has a 16 2.7 Sport package and I have a 13 5.0 4 x 4. First of all, her's will outrun mine like a spotted arse ape at any speed. She drives about 60 miles per day and is averaging 21 MPG. I get 14.6. Granted, I have a lead foot and the max tow package on mine so your mileage will definitely vary. That growl from the 5.0 just sounds like it means it when you hit the gas though. The turbos spinning up are almost instantaneous when you get on it in her's. As a daily driver with not much towing, I would go with the Eco. JMO though.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:59 am to upgrayedd
I have a 2017 3.5 ecoboost. I have had it for 2 months so far and have not towed anything yet. I have a 80 mile daily commute to work in bumper to bumper traffic. I’m getting 18.6 mpg. I’m happy with that. I expect it to be around 20 mpg when I finally do a long interstate trip. I might take the boat (4,000 lbs) out this weekend and I will see what my towing mpg will be.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:02 am to convertedtiger
From the ones that dont like there ecco boost do you have the version 1 or 2. In 17 I think they v2 came out and supposedly fixed a lot of issues and also added 50ft/lb of torque. That with the 10sp makes it a different feeling truck. Still quiet as all get out lol I do miss that at times.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:16 am to ctiger69
From everything I've seen, the gas mileage between the two is negligible. Kinda makes me wonder why the Eco is even a popular option besides price.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:32 am to upgrayedd
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From everything I've seen, the gas mileage between the two is negligible. Kinda makes me wonder why the Eco is even a popular option besides price.
The 3.5 Eco is an upgrade. I think it is about $1,000 more expensive than the 5.0 When I bought my truck it had three recalls that had to be fixed so they gave me a loaner. It was a 2017, 5.0 Lariat. I drove it for a week to and from work. Same traffic and I got 14.8 mpg. When I turned it in I was really happy I did not buy a 5.0 because the mpg was not very good.
The 2018 5.0 is suppose to get a bump in mpg as well as a bump in hp and tourque. If I was to buy a 5.0 it would be a 2018 and I would avoid the earlier models.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:51 am to Jenar Boy
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I would think that it would be fine towing anything from 4 wheeler/lawn mower up to a mid size boat on a regular basis.
Ive been in a 2.7 towing a 9k lb camper.
With premium it didn't give two shots it was back there
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:52 am to upgrayedd
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From everything I've seen, the gas mileage between the two is negligible. Kinda makes me wonder why the Eco is even a popular option besides price
The 2.7 gets a decent amount better mileage and is plenty powerful for most people. My cousin has one. I don't think anyone really knows about long-term reliability since it's only been around a few years. I went with the 5.0 because I drive about 8-9k per year and dgaf about gas mileage
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:59 am to jdeval1
With the 5.0 I’ve been averaging about 18mpg. Most of my driving is highway, but I do have to drive through that clusterf*ck known as the Evangeline Thruway twice a day. 5 o'clock traffic is especially ridiculous through there. But the mpg’s have been about what I expected.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:01 am to jdeval1
My only concern with reliability would be the fuel system since they are direct-injected. The V8 might also be direct injected so that would negate the advantage if so. The 5.0 is an overhead cam motor and isnt much simpler than the eco boost, especially if they have similar fuel systems. Turbochargers have at most a handful of moving parts and are rarely a problem.
If i were shopping I would probably get the EB. I think all engines should be turbocharged
If i were shopping I would probably get the EB. I think all engines should be turbocharged
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:09 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
My dad has a 2011 Eco and he has around 125k on it and has never had an issue with the motor.
Yeah, turbos have been around a long time and are used in a lot of vehicles. I don't see why these would be any different.
Yeah, turbos have been around a long time and are used in a lot of vehicles. I don't see why these would be any different.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:31 am to jdeval1
I like 5.0 better
Early 3.5 eco had timing chain issues. May not be as severe as forums make it out to be but it's somewhat concerning IMO.
Early 3.5 eco had timing chain issues. May not be as severe as forums make it out to be but it's somewhat concerning IMO.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:49 am to CP3
2011 Ecoboost with 117K on it. No major problems as of yet...but it is in the shop getting an alignment and running some diagnostics as I think I have heard the timing chain clattering with a cold start up. Also having real bad issues with hesitation and missing around 2500 rpm when trying to get up and go.
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