re: Denied on gun purchase….

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So who gets to be the arbiter of who will and won’t get their rights back?

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Ought not to be a choice anyone can or cannot make...depending on the initial crime there should be a point in time when the convicted person's full rights are restored...if they commit more crimes that date would shift to that date. The purpose of conviction should be to punish and reform...if the person has gone 10 years say without any serious infractions what purpose does it serve to keep that person in some status other than full citizen? We should encourage those who make a mistake to reform themselves, not punish them forever when they do.

My grandfather was convicted twice for bootlegging in the 1940s. He was 17 the first time and 18 the second time. Served a year a day the first time as a convicted felon. Was given the option of leaving Alabama or serving 10 years the second time...told the judge he always wanted to see what living in Atlanta was like. They moved to Atlanta and him and his brother opened up a used car lot, a taxi service, a bar and an auto auction. Was never arrested or even accused of anything ever again other than minor traffic violations. He voted and bought and owned guns but was not supposed to. The system was not as sophisticated as it is now but technically he was not supposed to vote or possess a firearm. From the age of 18 until he died at 70. That makes no sense at all.

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FedGov has a zillion ways to make every one of us into a criminal if it wants.

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And coming up with more every day....and the state is also. I get being tough on crime but we really need to define what tough is and what a crime is because it can vary wildly and its kind of important...

frick a burgler and his rights. sorry if that offends you.

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frick a burgler and his rights. sorry if that offends you.

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20 years ago. He should not lose his rights.

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you can always pay a guy cash for a weapon. just don't get caught.

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You could always shoot an extra duck . . . just don't get caught.

You could always rob someone . . . just don't get caught

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all of these lawyer replies are probably the "right" way to go about this.

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Yeah, and for a reason.

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BS. You're the second person to say this. Anyone 18 or older, not in prison should be able to own a firearm. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

If you are a violent criminal, you should not be walking freely amongst society. If they are a free person, they should also be able to own a firearm.

Gun rights should never be lost unless you are locked up. Once out you should get them back. It's the only right that gets lost forever.

I'd do everything I can to defend myself and my family if I was in OP shoes. If that means prison, so be it. I'd annihilate the world to save them from harm and not think a second about it.

frick people like you.

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If more guns makes the world a safer place I don't know why anyone under 18 should not be allowed to carry and do so openly and anywhere they go, the same as any other person. There should be no concern over mental stability, criminal activity, nothing should matter in the least...if you are alive and want to possess a gun and it is indeed a fact that more guns means more safety then the bad folks will be offset by more guns in the hands of good folks, regardless of age.

I don't buy the whole "more guns makes the world safer" POV but a lot of folks do....

Yes. Thanks.

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Did you mean you were charged but never convicted? They don't normally arrest until they charge you.

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In the overwhelming majority of non grand jury cases, arrest is the first step, charging comes after that.

Fwiw OP can likely buy a musket or muzzleloader. Most states allow this to felons to hunt for themselves probably to provide food. You can’t buy a modern rifle certainly, but simply saying you can’t buy a gun when you are a felon simply isn’t the case. I’d bet you could buy a muzzleloading shotgun legally also.