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Cranking a cold boat
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:13 pm
Is there a good way. My 2 stroke won't get going. Cranked it up a month ago. Was hard at that time. Gas is not an issue (non ethanol is used)
I would imagine starting fluid is a bad idea
I would imagine starting fluid is a bad idea
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 2:06 pm to lsufan112001
I use non-ethanol gas as well but if the gas is old the motor will have a hard time getting going.
I fish from February to July and I dump all my old gas the next February.
I fish from February to July and I dump all my old gas the next February.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 5:12 pm to lsufan112001
The old evinrude 2 stroke you had to lift the warm up lever about half way and push in the key to choke the engine while starting until it tries to run. Now crank it with out the key press in until it starts running.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:25 pm to lsufan112001
I spray some gas with oil mix in my carb.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:42 pm to lsufan112001
What motor?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:01 pm to cbr900racer22
Yamaha 150
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:03 am to lsufan112001
My 90 is hard too if not ran often. There is a manual choke on mine. If you pull the cowl, on the front of the engine, there is a red lever you turn. It helps but not sure if your engine has it or not.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 6:04 am
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:09 am to cbr900racer22
Push in the key and turn 1/2 way. You don't want the engine to turn over. Count to 10 and release the key then turn again like you would normally start the engine.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:11 am to lsufan112001
All 2 strokes have a personality and like to be started differently when cold.
With the old mans 25, you have to just pull the choke. Don’t pump the bulb, don’t pump the choke, don’t so shite that the manual tells you or youll be in for 10-15 minutes of redass.
They’re all different.
With the old mans 25, you have to just pull the choke. Don’t pump the bulb, don’t pump the choke, don’t so shite that the manual tells you or youll be in for 10-15 minutes of redass.
They’re all different.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:21 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
All 2 strokes have a personality and like to be started differently when cold.
This is absolutely true. I had an old evindrude that I had to pump the bulb pull the choke and twist the throttle twice then pull. Started first pull every time. Mess up that sequence and you were going to be a while getting it started
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:27 pm to lsufan112001
quote:
I would imagine starting fluid is a bad idea
actually its the best idea, you need to get it going to run that weak gas out so use the starting fluid, that is what the hell its entire designed purpose is to start up engines you are having trouble starting. it eliminates carb fuel related issues to get it to fire.
also non ethynol gas still makes sticky varnish when it sits for a while and has evaperated
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:37 pm to keakar
quote:Not good to use starting fluid on 2 strokes. Gas/oil mix is what you should use.
actually its the best idea, you need to get it going to run that weak gas out so use the starting fluid, that is what the hell its entire designed purpose is to start up engines you are having trouble starting. it eliminates carb fuel related issues to get it to fire.
Better off using WD/40 than ether. If you search you will find a lot of advice like this below:
quote:
Using starter fluids such as ether based or any starter fluid made for starting 4 stroke engines will cause severe damage to a two stroke motor. Normal engine starter fluid should not be used in a two stroke is because it does not contain enough lubricating properties to protect the piston and cylinder walls.
A 4-stroke engine gets oil from the crank case and it is moved up and down on the cylinder walls to keep it lubricated. Every upward motion a piston makes in a 4-stroke engine carries oil to the cylinder walls to lube the piston and cylinder; this means the engine is automatically lubricated so when you spray starter fluid in to start the motor the cylinder walls have oil on them.
Two strokes are lubed by a gas and oil mixture, they do not have oil in their crank case so if you don’t have gas and oil mixed to start the engine you will not have lubrication between the piston and cylinder walls, this will cause major scoring on the pistons and the cylinders. In conclusion, use only WD40 as a starter fluid for your two stroke engines. It contains enough petroleum in its formula to protect your engine on start up.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:28 pm to Geauxtiga
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Not good to use starting fluid on 2 strokes. Gas/oil mix is what you should use.
OMG !!! i wish people wouldnt talk about shite when they dont have a clue what they are talking about.
starting fluid is a vapor in a can, you arent filling up the carburetor with it or pouring it straight into the engine.
starting a 2 stroke with starting fluid is no different then with gas, starting fluid allows it to fire for 1 brief second and sucks in the gas oil mixure that is in the carb
and wd40 is not explosively flamable as a combustion liquid
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:36 pm to keakar
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OMG !!! i wish people wouldnt talk about shite when they dont have a clue what they are talking about.
Please take your own advice there, true it's only a vapor but a 2 stroke has oil in the gas mix and when it starts on either with no fuel present (in the cylinder) you will have a dry cylinder condition and it will score the cylinder and turn the motor into junk.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:16 pm to lsufan112001
Do you have the engined throttled? On the gear shift there is a button you can press and rev the engine without putting the engine in gear.
I had the same engine.
Sequence: pump bulb to firm, throttle the engine, choke and turn the key.
Would normally fire up on the third try.
I had the same engine.
Sequence: pump bulb to firm, throttle the engine, choke and turn the key.
Would normally fire up on the third try.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:06 pm to keakar
quote:The person who first told me that. last summer, is a certified mechanic.
OMG !!! i wish people wouldnt talk about shite when they dont have a clue what they are talking about
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:57 pm to bbvdd
Yeah. A button on the throttle.
It seems that the motor only wants a squirt or two and to just let it turn I until it fires. Doesn't like the choke.
It seems that the motor only wants a squirt or two and to just let it turn I until it fires. Doesn't like the choke.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:03 pm to Geauxtiga
You definitely do not want to crank a 2 stroke on ether unless you absolutely have to.
First thing people do when it pops but doesn’t stay running is spray more ether to keep it alive. That whole time cylinder is running dry and doing bad shite to itself
First thing people do when it pops but doesn’t stay running is spray more ether to keep it alive. That whole time cylinder is running dry and doing bad shite to itself
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:46 pm to lsufan112001
Can you hard start it? Put the throttle full tilt w/o engaging the prop, pump bulb, a little choke and fire it up. That's my trick for my Merc.
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