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Cornyn Introduces National Conceal-Carry Reciprocity Legislation
Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:41 am
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WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) introduced an amendment to S. 649 which would guarantee the rights of gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines and within other states that also have conceal-carry laws.
“Balancing two of this nation’s most fundamental rights, this measure ensures that law-abiding Americans are able to lawfully carry their weapons across state lines while respecting the rights of each individual state to pass laws that are right for them.”
The Constitutional Concealed Carry Act of 2013 would treat state-issued conceal-carry permits like drivers’ licenses, allowing law-abiding citizens with conceal-carry privileges to conceal-carry in any other states that also permits it by law. The amendment is supported by the National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:46 am to wickowick
And it looks like the background check bill doesn't have enough votes to pass the senate.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:09 am to DrTyger
I was listening to Gottlieb from Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms on NPR last night. That group was actually for the bill saying that it states that no national registry may be created, allows for CC across state lines, allows for handgun purchases in other states, etc. Interesting interview with Robert Siegel (devout Democrat).
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:10 am to wickowick
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:17 am to wickowick
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:24 am to wickowick
As a States' Rights Enthusiast and believer in the 10th Amendment I am somewhat conflicted on this to be honest.
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:26 am to DonChowder
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That group was actually for the bill saying that it states that no national registry may be created, allows for CC across state lines, allows for handgun purchases in other states, etc. Interesting interview with Robert Siegel (devout Democrat).
There has to be some holes in there somewhere. It can't just magically go from super anti-gun to pro-gun. There's something fishy about it.
But I will support this new bill! It isn't loaded with BS and actually has a real message/purpose behind it.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:30 am to bapple
Yeah the fishy part is that it's attached to this bill. I don't care if they put a blowjobs for everyone amendment on this bill, it's still a no go because of the universal background checks.
This is polishing a turd.
This is polishing a turd.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:32 am to DonChowder
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I was listening to Gottlieb from Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms on NPR last night. That group was actually for the bill saying that it states that no national registry may be created, allows for CC across state lines, allows for handgun purchases in other states, etc. Interesting interview with Robert Siegel (devout Democrat).
Supposedly Gottleib and company (the SAF) scrubbed the endorsement from their website after people did some analysis of the bill.
It provides for criminal penalties if the Attorney General (includes ATF) creates a registry, but doesn't say anything about whether other agencies (like DHS) could create a registry. Also, who would prosecute the AG for creating a registry? The AG himself is the ultimate prosecutor.
I'm pretty sure it also reads such that they cant take records from active FFLs to create a registry. So what happens when an FFL retires and turns in his yellow sheets?
Basically the Democrats have much craftier lawyers writing bills. Any gun legislation written by them will screw us.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:33 am to faxis
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Yeah the fishy part is that it's attached to this bill. I don't care if they put a blowjobs for everyone amendment on this bill, it's still a no go because of the universal background checks.
It is probably nothing more than a poison pill...
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:33 am to faxis
F&$k this bill
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:42 am to faxis
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Yeah the fishy part is that it's attached to this bill. I don't care if they put a blowjobs for everyone amendment on this bill, it's still a no go because of the universal background checks.
This is polishing a turd.
I'm pretty sure the OP's bill is different than the one we're talking out. But I agree entirely that the other giant bill sucks a big one.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:46 am to DrTyger
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And it looks like the background check bill doesn't have enough votes to pass the senate.
this Reciprocity Legislation is an AMENDMENT to the background check bill. So if S.649 (the background check bill) fails, this fails also.
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:48 am to bapple
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I'm pretty sure the OP's bill is different than the one we're talking out. But I agree entirely that the other giant bill sucks a big one.
Wrong... Faxis is correct. The OP is talking about S.649 which is the "Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013" which in Subsection B, states:
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Subtitle B--Requiring a Background Check for Every Firearm Sale
Sec. 121. Purpose.
Sec. 122. Firearms transfers.
Sec. 123. Lost and stolen reporting.
Sec. 124. Effective date.
So, see my post directly above this one. They're trying to add "feel good" amendments to the TURD that is S.649 to try to get it to pass.
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:53 am to cdaniel76
Ohhhhhhh!
I didn't realize this was an attached amendment.
Yea, this bill will probably die, and rightfully so.
EDIT: I think the strategy they are taking here is to load the bill with polar opposite ideas so that no one votes in favor of it. If that's the strategy, it seems to be working.
I didn't realize this was an attached amendment.
Yea, this bill will probably die, and rightfully so.
EDIT: I think the strategy they are taking here is to load the bill with polar opposite ideas so that no one votes in favor of it. If that's the strategy, it seems to be working.
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:14 pm to bapple
Yeah I hope that's right. Make this thing where absolutely NOBODY will vote for it then sit back and laugh at Reid and Feinstein.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:19 pm to wickowick
How is this different than current state reciprocity?
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:20 pm to LSU Tigershark
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How is this different than current state reciprocity?
This would create national reciprocity.
But it will die anyway. The rest of the bill sucks.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:37 pm to wickowick
So, we're making a law to fix a law that shouldn't even exist in the first place? frick politicians.
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