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climber gear check/help

Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:42 pm
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
810 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:42 pm
I just bought a HSS Hybrid harness and will be buying a Summit Viper SD climber. I have never hunted out of a climber or used a harness like this before. What else do I need to look at buying, or will I have everything I need in the packaging?
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3298 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:43 pm to
A different stand. Buy a Treewalker you can thank me later. Everything should come with the harness. Wear it religiously and fromt he time you start climbing til the time you're back on the ground. STAY TIED OFF TO THAT TREE 100% OF THE TIME
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
810 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:45 pm to
Why a different stand? No experience and have read great reviews, looking for some help from guys that hunt this way before I make the order.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:49 pm to
summit viper sd is a great stand. I prefer it over the treewalker, i own both.

Edit: i guess that other feller is trolling about the treewalker. I keep it on the tree year round since it's a pain to carry around and pack. I pack the summit in and out with me and feel much safer with the cable lock system over the pins
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3298 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:50 pm to
I'm just not a Summit fan since the only stand I've ever had slip with me on a tree was a Summit. Some folks swear by them though. I'm a huge Treewalker fan because you won't find a more comfortable stand, made in the US, and they're just plain built better and not heavy
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I've ever had slip with me on a tree was a Summit.


what kind of tree were you climbing? I've had them for 10 years and never had an issue with that.
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3298 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:54 pm to
Oak tree. Twice. Definitely not trolling. You are seriously the only person I've ever heard say they prefer a Summit over a TReewalker that's actually had firsthand experience with both. A buddy of mine let me borrow his Treewalker and I was sold on them from the first time I climbed with it. You will not find a stand that bites a tree like they do. Most of all our hunting buddies now have swapped over to them. I will add my 2nd favorite is the Original Ol Man stands
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21845 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:20 pm to
I've never used a Treewalker so can't speak on that one, but I have a Viper as my current climber and would recommend it. Definitely prefer the Viper over the 1st climber I had from API. I use it with an HSS Treestalker harness.

I've added on:
Side bags to carry gear
Bow holder
Bow / rifle hoist
Posted by EarlyBird
Member since Jun 2006
4096 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:25 pm to
I own a Summit and love it. I think the Summit is better for pine trees, since it has less biting teeth that allows for easier and quieter climbing. They also spray foam the inside of the frame so there is no noise if pieces bump together. Other stands with sharper teeth/nail grips, like the Old Man etc are better for slick/hard trees such as gum and oaks. I always look for a pine first though, because the stand sticks like glue. I've never had an issue and I pack mine in and out most times I hunt. As far as harnesses go, the one's you get with the stands will suffice, but they aren't as intuitive as some others you can get. I have one of the old seat-o-the pants harnesses and really like it now that I'm used to it. I get mine on before I leave the camp, but it only take me two minutes tops to put on anyway. I'd also look into a lifeline for climbing.

ETA:

Also, I assume you tied off the two sections. Big part of it. Summit has a bungee strap that comes with it to do this.

Another benefit to the Summit (I have the 180 Max) is that I can reverse the seat so that the tree is in front of me. I do this if I'm more in the open for additional concealment. The stand is so comfortable that I fight falling asleep a lot of times. Your back right quadrant will be a tough shot for a right handed shooter, so be prepared to stand up in those situations.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2026 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:27 pm to
Things I've added to my Summit Viper:
Thirdhand stabilizer straps
Thirdhand footrest
Hazmore mesh seat
Gun holder
Hazmore back rest

The stabilizer straps are the best of the add ons. The footrest is nice for long sits and works great as a drag. The mesh seat is something I changed after growing frustrated with the regular seat when climbing. However, I believe the regular seat is more comfy. The Hazmore seat makes climbing easier as it doesn't get in the way.
Added the gun holder this year. I love this mod but you have to remove the one closest to the front of the stand for packing. The backrest makes it more comfy but can be an issue climbing. I've also put adhesive grip strips on the platform slats. This is a cheap mod that pays off especially when leaving the stand in the woods over night.

Since this was about your HSS hybrid harness, I've added a beal dynaclip that gives me a little extra length from my HSS tree strap to my harness.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 7:32 pm
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2864 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:43 pm to
The Hazmore mesh seat is a must have. I have changed out both seats on my Summit climbers for these. They make the stand lighter, quieter and are more comfortable to sit in IMHO. Summit should make them mandatory on all their stands.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5559 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:50 pm to
I’ve had Summit, Loggy Bayou, Ol Man, and Treewalker. Treewalker is my favorite. Not sure if it’s legal on public cause it digs into the trees hard.
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:34 am to
Go to Harbor Freight and buy a 25' dog leash... they are normally $5 but you can find them on sale for $1 in that coupon paper.
Ty-Wrap it to your stand.
Hook the leash on your bow or gun and it will stay on the ground as you climb.
When you get in the tree, pull it up.
It will retract automatically.
Posted by EarlyBird
Member since Jun 2006
4096 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:46 am to
Good call. I need to try that.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
810 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:25 pm to
The Summit Viper SD just went on sale at Amazon for $60 off, paid $229 for it just now.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166075 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Go to Harbor Freight and buy a 25' dog leash... they are normally $5 but you can find them on sale for $1 in that coupon paper.
Ty-Wrap it to your stand.
Hook the leash on your bow or gun and it will stay on the ground as you climb.
When you get in the tree, pull it up.
It will retract automatically.


what if your sweet spot is 26-33 ft in air?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19232 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:07 pm to
I hunted climbers for 30 years and love them. This year I Put up 4 different lockons 22' - 24' up on our property and saw 10 x the deer I'd seen in past years.

Set them for different winds

I fed more also which may have helped, just seems like the noise of the climber scares deer off more than slipping into a lockon.

Just my 2 cents, I use an Ole Man when I climb

Posted by Coomdaddy
KY
Member since Aug 2017
389 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:23 pm to
Get the Thirdhand Archery stabilizer straps for sure.
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