re: Can't fish my dock!! Now 400 fishermen plan to fish it...UPDATE: Live Link

Good spot for an OB kayak tourney and fish fry.

I was always under the impression that no one owns the ocean. I remember reading about some guy walking into some rich area on the beach and they were trying to kick him out but he was in the water. If I remember correctly, he never trespassed as he never walked on the beach but instead in the shallow water. Not sure where it was at but thought it was in FL or in Cali.

So even if the woman owns the dock, it isn't like she owns the water or land underneath the dock. Would that be correct to all the OT lawyer baws?

Short answer, it seems as though she does not own the land under the dock. She owns 5 feet of shoreline, likely only out to the high tide mark. I haven't seen a super concise answer but this seems to be the generally accepted thought currently... From the news outlets reporting on it and the baws here.

Covered earlier but don't blame you for not reading back far enough to find it...

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*might* have to bring your own fish...

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Ill know more in the next two weeks. Although Pillage and Janky may have to come to determine if there are any bass in there. There could be a million and i could go weeks without getting a bite.

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Short answer, it seems as though she does not own the land under the dock.

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I think this is correct. As I understand it the docks have to be permitted. As in permitted by the state because you are building a dock over water & property underneath it you do not own.

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Funny part..
we saw the cop sneaking around side f the house, hiding behind bushes for a couple of minutes...until we yelled out "Hey, catching some good specks out here...can we help you."

Thought we were getting barney Fife and thats when he came and told us the theft report. But he was anything but Barney Fife.

He looked around told us no problem. Even said...I have no right to ask but it will help me with the homeowner..do we mind giving our names/DL to run...and he understidd if we didnt and would be no problem.

We all gave it to him...laughed and joked as he called it in and he waited for feedback.

Figured it made the homeowner look worse by being willing and report on 3 people came back with 2 traficc tickets total amongst all 3 of us.

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You don't think a person could fit in a five foot wide space?

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there is a dock there. How wide do you think the dock is? Let’s start here

Okay so you won’t talk actual ability for him to enter the water from her property? That’s pretty much her entire claim. She also incorrectly believed she owns the water yet you seem to take her word as fact.

How many inches of shore line would you say she owns on each side of her dock that allow for him to trespass on her property? These are the actual facts of the case aren’t they?

From the Newsweek article:

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We… reviewed the actual parcel that Joyce owned. Her property line does not extend into the water like her neighbors. Her property only includes about 5 feet of shoreline. Jose had never approached the beach area that Joyce owns,” the local police incident report stated.

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I remember seeing something yesterday or day betore posted on the Fish Joyce’s Dock FB page that the fisherman claimed he accessed the spot he was fishing near her dock via public beach access down the street and had walked over while remaining in the water, which would mean he stayed off her property the entire time. If she has pictures to the contrary, you’d think she’d be quick to show them to the cops so the fisherman would get cited for trespassing. The fact that she hasn’t done that makes me think she doesn’t have the photo evidence that she claims