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re: Buying a handgun

Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:01 pm to
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Fantastic. Too bad it's single action. You can pull all you want-it's not going shoot again.

Why? I've never shot one. I've seen them in some holsters though.

Question. Do you ever at least try to respond on here as if you're not a frickstick?


Obviously my comment has offended you. That wasn't my intent, and I apologize. I truly thought that someone with your post count (and apparent image as someone whose opinions about outdoor stuff carry weight), would have known some of this stuff.

Glocks are not single action. By any definition. No matter what some might wish to think.

They are not truly DAO, as I thought I had clarified adequately when I posted "Technically, the striker is partially cocked prior to pulling the trigger. Pulling the trigger fully cocks, and then releases, the striker." But they are essentially a DA pistol (or at least far more so than being a SA pistol), which is why ATF placed them in that category.

I really presumed, since you have posted a lot of comments about them and their trigger pulls, that you would be aware that Glock trigger pull could be adjusted. and that it takes only a few minutes.

Actually, I thought you were just joking when, in responding about why you think the Glock trigger is more dangerous than that of a revolver, you said " I would say the pull difference is the difference." I posted my comment about how easily the trigger pull can be changed for the benefit of those who might have taken your comment seriously.

Hopefully I just caught you on a bad day.
Have a good one.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:12 pm to
I failed-hang on.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 3:12 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:20 pm to
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Glocks are not single action. By any definition. No matter what some might wish to think
Why?

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They are not truly DAO
Agree.

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"Technically, the striker is partially cocked prior to pulling the trigger. Pulling the trigger fully cocks, and then releases, the striker."
That really has little to do with the "action".

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But they are essentially a DA pistol (or at least far more so than being a SA pistol),
Reverse that, and you've got it.

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Hopefully I just caught you on a bad day
I'm having a great day. My day has no bearing on the fact that you've been a frickstick since you showed up here.

A true double action semi auto does not need the slide to cock the hammer. If you have a misfire, and pull again, it's not going to fire.

Or, we could just read this and pretend we are those guys. LINK

Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23023 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:51 pm to
Every handgun I've ever carried doesn't have any external safeties (Sig, Glock) and I haven't felt the least bit uncomfortable carrying them.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:55 pm to
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Every handgun I've ever carried doesn't have any external safeties (Sig, Glock) and I haven't felt the least bit uncomfortable carrying them


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LawMan
I would expect nothing else.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23023 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:02 pm to
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I would expect nothing else.



I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an insult FWIW I would never "Mexican carry" a Glock, but a long as I have it in a good holster I'm good to go.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:08 pm to
Just my opinion, but M&P have different concerns than Joe 6-pack and should own different systems.
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:09 pm to
FN 5.7
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 6:32 pm to
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Glocks are not single action. By any definition. No matter what some might wish to think


Why?

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

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"Technically, the striker is partially cocked prior to pulling the trigger. Pulling the trigger fully cocks, and then releases, the striker."


That really has little to do with the "action".

As noted above, I can't understand it for you.



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I'm having a great day. My day has no bearing on the fact that you've been a frickstick since you showed up here.

Fortunately, I have a significantly different concept of great days.

Apparently, in your little world, if someone points out a erroneous statement, or an asinine opinion that is unsupported by any evidence, he is a "frickstick." I can't help you with your problem.

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A true double action semi auto does not need the slide to cock the hammer. If you have a misfire, and pull again, it's not going to fire.


1. You seem to be all wrapped around the axle about "pulling the trigger again after a misfire." You also somehow, for some inexplicable reason, use "second strike capability" to define "double action."

2. I guess it goes without saying (but perhaps it bears noting) that a high post count does not equate to expertise. I'm sure you are knowledgeable about many things, but self defense handguns obviously isn't one of them.

3. If pulling the trigger were the proper course of action following a misfire, there are a lot of training academies around this country that could use your guidance. I can think of a dozen, off the top of my head, that are (according to your procedure) teaching it wrong.

4. I wish you would tell us where you learned that "double action trigger" is defined as one which provides "second strike" capability. Is this something you learned on TV, or from a gun ad? Some DA triggers do allow this -- others do not. Your definition is wrong -- unless have the standing to redefine the term. If so, you might want to start with Kahr Arms, and convince them (and a large segment of gun world) that Kahr pistols do not have DA triggers.

5. Despite your various misguided opinions and statements, you do seem to possess some debating skills. Perhaps you are an attorney, or were on your middle school debate team. In either case, a basic understanding of the facts would allow you to formulate more effective arguments. I doubt it would do much for what appears to be a practiced lack of civility, but that trait is often seen in internet commandos.




Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:02 pm to
Your definitions are meaningless and make no sense. They make no difference whatsoever in these discussions. They are useful to show how much of an arrogant prick you are though.

It's amuzing to see someone who spends so much time with guns and in gun culture have so little common sense.

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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You have never enn tried. You sit back and play some sort of giotcha game without explaining any of your positions.
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As noted above, I can't understand it for you.
Again

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Apparently, in your little world, if someone points out a erroneous statement, or an asinine opinion that is unsupported by any evidence, he is a "frickstick." I can't help you with your problem.
What you say has little to do with it. It's how you present your position. You're a frickstick. It's who you are. there not much one can do about it. forum fricksticks never suddenly become gentlement.

You'll be a frickstick in another gun topic when you can play your gotcha game of knowledge without actually spreading any.

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high post count
You've used this a lot. We get it. Find another angle or move on.
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debating skills.
Sweet. A man who uses a numbered list with the same lack of point in each is going there.

Look. You're just not very smart. You've gone a long ways with guns and should be applauded for that. Here is just some guy who has never even shot any of these guns getting you so say ridiculous things. You're debating someone who has fired a pistol twice

The funniest part is, you don't even regognize the problem of classifying the "safe action". You act like there is some sort of coscensus. Yes, you're a frickstick.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:09 pm to
Judge to face, unless collared
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22764 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:15 pm to
I missed a Alx debate. Damn rescue training.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:21 pm to
Looks like a good thread to read one of these days. When and if I can ever get home...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:22 pm to
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Judge to face, unless collared
Shithead identified.

Next!
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:25 pm to
The same "shite head"?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:28 pm to
No, new one.
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18586 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:29 pm to
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Looks like a good thread to read one of these days. When and if I can ever get home...

Who & where you agravating folks
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:31 pm to
Spreading joy to all parts of SEC!!!! Lol
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18586 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:36 pm to
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Spreading joy

Better watch out & not catch something
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22764 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:48 pm to
Better not be spreading little Geauxt's. One is enough.
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