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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps

Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:46 pm to
I haven't seen anyone say don't kill does in this thread.

What I'm reading is don't kill young deer, whether it has horns or not.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Transitioning to being able to be selective in what deer you kill rather than killing first one that walks out is a very rewarding feeling


Killing a deer in general is a rewarding feeling to me. Killing a bigger buck, which I’ve done, was no more rewarding than killing a smaller buck. The 4 point I killed earlier I had to drag a long arse way by myself with lightning strikes all around me and rain. Forecast had shown storm to come through at 8 pm, instead it came through at 5:30 and hit as soon as I started walking up to the deer. It was rewarding experience, if it was a 12 point it wouldn’t have made it any different.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

haven't seen anyone say don't kill does in this thread.



That wasn’t my point, I realize nobody said that just saying it doesn’t take a huge rack to get lots of meat.

quote:

What I'm reading is don't kill young deer, whether it has horns or not.


Then those saying it shouldn’t kill young deer, but I’m gonna keep doing it as long as it’s legal.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16167 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:09 pm to
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If you had your own property with the ability to hold deer, I'd be willing to bet you'd change your perspective on it.


If you can hold your own deer, then you can make your own rules and not let the state dictate what everyone else can shoot. It's your choice to shoot deer with big bones growing out the top of their head. I guess to some people it makes them feel like they are a better hunter than others because they let deer grow for years before shooting them with their nose in a pile of rice bran. Some folks don't care about antlers and just want to kill a deer because they enjoy eating it.

I personally don't think we need anymore regulations.

I'm just thankful I have 2 places to hunt, 1 we own and 1 we lease. Either place we don't shoot every deer we see(anymore), but if you come back to the camp after a hunt with any size deer, everybody is happy for you.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3914 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

does can get big also


Damn skippy. I get much satisfaction from smoking a fat nanny with my bow.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Killing a deer in general is a rewarding feeling to me. Killing a bigger buck, which I’ve done, was no more rewarding than killing a smaller buck. The 4 point I killed earlier I had to drag a long arse way by myself with lightning strikes all around me and rain. Forecast had shown storm to come through at 8 pm, instead it came through at 5:30 and hit as soon as I started walking up to the deer. It was rewarding experience, if it was a 12 point it wouldn’t have made it any different.



It’s all subjective. Your experience and desires may be 100% different than the next person’s. Different doesn’t necessarily mean wrong (or right)


To add my two cents, I try to only kill mature deer. Number of points is pretty much irrelevant. It’s more challenging. I enjoy hunting/killing a old mature deer infinitely more than blasting some young deer. I’d rather kill a 120” 6.5 yo than a 150” 3 yo everyday

The “hunt” is part of the reason that I strictly bow hunt 95% of the time. I enjoy the challenge that comes with bow hunting rather than sitting in a box over a 5 acre green field and waiting (not that I don’t enjoy that style either, just prefer the bow).
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1818 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Deer get big and not have big antlers, does can get big also.


Most big bodied deer will have racks that match. I realize there are a ton of examples of the rack not matching the body, killed a great example of it a few years ago. That said it is more the exception to the rule.

And mature bucks will give significantly more meat than does. I killed 2 does in 5 minutes earlier this year and they yielded less meat combined than the post rut buck I killed.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

every billy bad arse around on social media thinking he is some professional hunter with his film equipment


This is hilarious and true. I was commenting the other day that it seems like all these baws have their own Production Companies these days handing out flat bill trucker hats and shirts.
Posted by Gatorgar
la
Member since Jan 2019
228 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:14 pm to
I’d be willing to bet that most people who say they are meat hunters and that killing a big rack mature deer makes no difference to them have never killed anything that scored over 120 inches. They probably even look at other people’s pictures on social media and think to themselves man I would love to kill a deer like that, yet they go in the woods and kill the first basket rack they see and say well u can’t eat the horns.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2928 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:37 pm to
The best is when they say “ man y’all have some nice deer” !!!
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5992 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:45 pm to
spoken like a guy that can't afford to fence his place...

7300 acres high fence doesn't hurt anyone but some OB poors feelings.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:49 pm to
So what you're saying is back in the day folks couldnt kill deer without an entourage?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:56 pm to
They could have, but they didnt really care to. They like hunting in the morning together and drinking/cooking in the evening together. They killed fewer deer, but they enjoyed it more. I was lucky enough to be there for the back end of it
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3567 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:04 pm to
You huntin wit the wrong people.
Find some like minded hunters.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:16 pm to
quote:


They could have, but they didnt really care to. They like hunting in the morning together and drinking/cooking in the evening together. They killed fewer deer, but they enjoyed it more. I was lucky enough to be there for the back end of it



There are plenty of camps like this still around
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:21 pm to
Your post is poorly worded. I get what you are saying, you believe the modern focus on score for whitetail bucks is misplaced and detracts from the overall hunting experience. Fair enough, then say that.

Boone and Crockett is a conservation organization that has played a massive role in constructing, developing and perpetuating the American Model of Conservation. As an organization it expands far beyond simply scoring whitetail deer.

I would encourage you to learn a bit about the organization and perhaps join rather than waste time posting misguided rants like this.

Boone and Crockett Club
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:06 pm to
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spoken like a guy that can't afford to fence his place...

7300 acres high fence doesn't hurt anyone but some OB poors feelings.


I have family that runs high fence. Never had the desire to hunt it.

And we actually own our land that’s low fenced. Not leased between 12 families like most people who do the high fenced game while pretending to be wealthy and visit the “ranch” (that actually runs zero cattle).
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16167 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

They could have, but they didnt really care to. They like hunting in the morning together and drinking/cooking in the evening together. They killed fewer deer, but they enjoyed it more. I was lucky enough to be there for the back end of it


I’ll be thinking of you guys when we’re turning loose in the morning.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48838 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:34 pm to
I also blame Facebook, because the flip side of this is a ton of hunters (husband and wife combos are the worst) posting hunt after hunt “hey look at the 4 point we shot” “look at the 6 point we shot”

Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:50 pm to
People used to hunt all year and maybe not see a deer. There were no cameras, feeding, etc back then. People hunted.
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